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Re: Cicero Crew 1930s to 1970s
[Re: Faithful1]
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07/24/13 02:25 AM
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Again, I would remove the Non-Italians and just stick to made guys. Keep Aleman on there. Ferriola pushed his nephew through.
I would keep Tornabene on there. I don't believe he belonged to Chicago Heights or 26th ST. I think he did belong to Cicero.
Yes, Nitti belonged to Cicero. On that PM I told you what my father said about him. When Outfit men say someone 'BELONGS' to someone, that means he is in the same crew with the guy they're talking about at that moment. Nitti was Capone's cousin and he 'Belonged' to him.
Cicero was Al Capone's power base.
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Re: Cicero Crew 1930s to 1970s
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Faithful1, 12thSt is correct. By the way He is very good.
Anyway, Melrose Park is covered by Cicero. Even the Feds were smart enough to figure that out. They call it the Cicero/Melrose Park Crew. Years earlier, Melrose Park was covered by Taylor St, Sam Battaglia.
There was never any set rule written like it was one of the ten Commandments that there were 6 crews. The Outfit was always very flexible.
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Re: Cicero Crew 1930s to 1970s
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07/25/13 05:07 AM
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Faithful1, Dominic Toots Palermo was a made guy in the Chicago Heights Crew. (Far South Suburbs) Melrose Park was covered by Cicero. Auippa, Carlisi, Marcello, Zizzo, Chiarimonti etc.
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Re: Cicero Crew 1930s to 1970s
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Huron, Have to agree. Mooney underestimated Auippa. Auippa's Cicero men had fat bellies (a lot of money). He was also a good politician. I'll explain:
Auippa, more than Cerone, was able to persuade some of the remaining Taylor St. men to be loyal to him.
Examples: Dominic Blasi Turk Torello Joey Lombardo Angelo LaPietra Frank Skids Caruso
These men were more impressed with Auippa than the Cerone. What Cerone had going for him was the loyalty of Accardo.
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Re: Cicero Crew 1930s to 1970s
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That's a good question. I'm not sure who Lombardo was closer to: Auippa or Cerone. You would think Cerone because of the Grand Ave Connection? If I don't know something I'll tell you. I'm not really sure about that question? LOL. I will tell you this: Lombardo was very close with DiFronzo.
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Re: Cicero Crew 1930s to 1970s
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During the Taylor St years, guys operating around Grand & Ogden belonged to Elmwood Park. The Elmwood Park Crew really was the Old Grand Ave Crew. They moved the epicenter further West in the early 1950's into Elmwood Park.
Then, around 1969, Auippa/Cerone made Joey Lombardo a Boss and Partner with them. He wanted to stay in the old neighborheed and make that the epicenter of his power, so, the Grand Ave Crew came about again as a separate but allied Crew with Elmwood Park who was partnered with Cicero to run the whole fucking Outfit. Make sense? The History is interesting and you'll never read it in a Book. LOL
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Re: Cicero Crew 1930s to 1970s
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The Difronzo Bothers, Lombardo, Cerone, Gagliano, were all Grand Ave guys. They were born and raised in the Grand Ave neighborhood. I don't doubt that Lumpy hung around Taylor St(The Patch). After all, it wasn't really that far away. I agree with you about one thing for sure: They'll never be another Joey Lombardo. No question.
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Re: Cicero Crew 1930s to 1970s
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Years ago they used to call the Taylor St area the Patch. So, when I hear the Patch I immediately think Taylor St. LOL
Are you saying that an area around Grand and Ogden is/was called the Patch?
To me, The Patch was always Taylor St. Mooney would even call it 'The Patch' talking to my father.
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Re: Cicero Crew 1930s to 1970s
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Good god! What an education on the Outfit. Want to thank all of you who are keeping these Chitown threads going.
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Re: Cicero Crew 1930s to 1970s
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Years ago they used to call the Taylor St area the Patch. So, when I hear the Patch I immediately think Taylor St. LOL
Are you saying that an area around Grand and Ogden is/was called the Patch?
To me, The Patch was always Taylor St. Mooney would even call it 'The Patch' talking to my father. My Mom's family all from Taylor Street. They referred to it as The Patch also, Chicago so it's not just you...:)
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Re: Cicero Crew 1930s to 1970s
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Good god! What an education on the Outfit. Want to thank all of you who are keeping these Chitown threads going. +1... Great Windy City stuff! Where the heck have you guys been? You are a welcome addition to the BB. "Storekeeper, Canfield's for everyone!" That's a Chicago thing... if we have to explain it you wouldn't be interested!
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Re: Cicero Crew 1930s to 1970s
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Good god! What an education on the Outfit. Want to thank all of you who are keeping these Chitown threads going. +1... Great Windy City stuff! Where the heck have you guys been? You are a welcome addition to the BB. "Storekeeper, Canfield's for everyone!" That's a Chicago thing... if we have to explain it you wouldn't be interested! We've all been eating arancini at Freddy's on 16th Street...;) lol
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