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Re: Taylor Street Crew 1957-1966
[Re: HuronSocialAthletic]
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07/25/13 09:11 AM
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Huron,
Angelo LaPietra became Boss of Chinatown after Turk Torello died. Turk Torello died at 49 years old.
Last edited by Chicago; 07/25/13 09:12 AM.
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Re: Taylor Street Crew 1957-1966
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07/25/13 09:35 AM
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Yes, The Hook took it over in 1979 when Torello died.
Skids Caruso was a made guy who belonged to Taylor St. He ran a Franchise in that area for a long time.
When the Changing of the Guard took place, the REMAINING Taylor St men went in 1 of 3 directions:
1) Direct with Auippa/Cerone
2) With Lombardo who became a Capo, Grand Ave
3) With Torello who became a Capo, 26th St
Skids Caruso was then UNDER Torello.
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Re: Taylor Street Crew 1957-1966
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07/25/13 11:30 AM
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[quote=TommyGambino]I thought DeStefano was never made? Well why does all he information available say he wasn't. Surely the Feds would have known if he was made. The Feds did know he was made. Why Roemer denied it is beyond me. Here´s a small excerpt from a list showing the made guys of the outfit. Both Sam and his brother Mario is listed.  Thanks. Happy now that you've seen an FBI document to prove 'TommyGambino' (I'm sure that's your name). Go worry about the royal baby and learn the difference between to and too.
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Re: Taylor Street Crew 1957-1966
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07/25/13 11:54 AM
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Good god! What an education on the Outfit. Want to thank all of you who are keeping these Chitown threads going.
"Three can keep a secret..if two are dead."
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Re: Taylor Street Crew 1957-1966
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07/25/13 12:09 PM
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Happy now that you've seen an FBI document to prove 'TommyGambino' (I'm sure that's your name). Go worry about the royal baby and learn the difference between to and too. I'm sure that's your name? If that's an attempt at humour then it went over my head. You sound like you have the mental age of a child. Now go pretend you're a loanshark. Will you two please take this pissing contest off the boards.
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Re: Taylor Street Crew 1957-1966
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07/25/13 12:12 PM
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Happy now that you've seen an FBI document to prove 'TommyGambino' (I'm sure that's your name). Go worry about the royal baby and learn the difference between to and too. I'm sure that's your name? If that's an attempt at humour then it went over my head. You sound like you have the mental age of a child. Now go pretend you're a loanshark. Will you two please take this pissing contest off the boards. I won't respond to him now but when someone tries to insult me for no reason it's natural to respond.
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Re: Taylor Street Crew 1957-1966
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07/25/13 02:21 PM
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Yes, The Hook took it over in 1979 when Torello died.
Skids Caruso was a made guy who belonged to Taylor St. He ran a Franchise in that area for a long time.
When the Changing of the Guard took place, the REMAINING Taylor St men went in 1 of 3 directions:
1) Direct with Auippa/Cerone
2) With Lombardo who became a Capo, Grand Ave
3) With Torello who became a Capo, 26th St
Skids Caruso was then UNDER Torello.
I have it that Lombardo took over for Battaglia, so it would seem that Torello followed Bucciere. The specific Chinatown crew, which I guess earlier on was a subcrew, was headed by Bruno Roti since the 1920s until he died in the 1950s, followed by Skids Caruso http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-roo...-136746478.htmlhttp://articles.chicagotribune.com/1999-09-21/news/9909210275_1_fred-roti-1st-ward-santa-claus
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Re: Taylor Street Crew 1957-1966
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07/25/13 03:00 PM
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Why did McGurn get killed? The most plausible theory by far is that he was basically shelved after Capone went to prison; they just didn't have any use for him. He was more of a thug than big earner and there were a few other reasons that I can't really remember. He tried to make a living playing golf as he was really good but it didn't work out. Eventually he started going back to "the boys" demanding some action and pointing out how much dirt he had on everybody, which led to Nitti giving the order to have him killed. The building where he was killed on Milwaukee and Chicago is still standing. And his girlfriend, the famous "Blonde Alibi" Louise Rolfe was probably one of the last Capone era players to die; she died in the 90s. (Geraldo famously interviewed her.) The other theory is that he was killed in retaliation for something, such as the St. Valentine's Day Massacre (he didn't participate but may have planned) but as far as I know no one really believes that. The Green Mill was his night club at one point and as you probably know is the only true Capone-era nightclub still open. They made a whole movie out of the Joe E. Lewis thing that happened there with Sinatra as Lewis called "The Joker's Wild"
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Re: Taylor Street Crew 1957-1966
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07/25/13 03:21 PM
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Why did McGurn get killed? The most plausible theory by far is that he was basically shelved after Capone went to prison; they just didn't have any use for him. He was more of a thug than big earner and there were a few other reasons that I can't really remember. He tried to make a living playing golf as he was really good but it didn't work out. Eventually he started going back to "the boys" demanding some action and pointing out how much dirt he had on everybody, which led to Nitti giving the order to have him killed. The building where he was killed on Milwaukee and Chicago is still standing. And his girlfriend, the famous "Blonde Alibi" Louise Rolfe was probably one of the last Capone era players to die; she died in the 90s. (Geraldo famously interviewed her.) The other theory is that he was killed in retaliation for something, such as the St. Valentine's Day Massacre (he didn't participate but may have planned) but as far as I know no one really believes that. The Green Mill was his night club at one point and as you probably know is the only true Capone-era nightclub still open. They made a whole movie out of the Joe E. Lewis thing that happened there with Sinatra as Lewis called "The Joker's Wild" For at least a year McGurn was acting paranoid. Before he was killed a government agent witnessed him at a sit-down in Florida and saw other high-level Outfit mobsters with him. So I would guess that McGurn did or said something serious, or at least was accused of doing something serious. Demanding action and making threats would probably qualify. Don't think it would have been Nitti giving the order if he wasn't the boss. If he was with Grand Avenue it would have been Capezio and his bosses Campagna and Ricca.
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Re: Taylor Street Crew 1957-1966
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07/25/13 03:44 PM
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The Carusos have quite the history in Chinatown. Had it, lost it & took a backseat for a long time to the LaPietras and then that mongoloid Monteleone, and then regained it. Would make for a great movie. Love that fuckin neighborhood. Have you ever been to the St. Rocco fest. I was thinking of going this year. I heard it is sponsored by "some people." One of my favourite fests in the city! So much fun. Yes, I'll be there this year. You should most certainly go. You will see some heavies for sure.
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Re: Taylor Street Crew 1957-1966
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07/25/13 03:59 PM
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Well, as it turns you, you don't even need a family insider, just Wiki:
In 1931, both 45 year-old Frank Nitti and 32 year-old Al Capone were convicted of tax evasion and sent to prison; however, Nitti received an 18-month sentence, while Capone was sent away for 11 years. Nitti was not a troublesome prisoner, but found the year-and-a-half confinement in a cell difficult because of the closed-in space. When Nitti was released in 1932, the media hailed him as the new boss of the Capone Gang.[5]
In truth, however, Nitti was only a front man. According to crime historians, "it was ludicrous" to expect that people such as Tony Accardo, Jake Guzik, Murray "The Camel" Humphreys, or Paul "The Waiter" Ricca would have taken orders from Nitti. By all accounts, Ricca had the real power by at least 1932 and was clearly the de facto boss by 1939 even though he was technically Nitti's underboss. When Charles "Lucky" Luciano and Meyer Lansky organized the National Crime Syndicate in the 1930s, they considered Nitti a human cypher. Lansky and Luciano dealt with Ricca, not Nitti, as the boss of the Chicago Outfit.[5]
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Re: Taylor Street Crew 1957-1966
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07/25/13 04:01 PM
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The Carusos have quite the history in Chinatown. Had it, lost it & took a backseat for a long time to the LaPietras and then that mongoloid Monteleone, and then regained it. Would make for a great movie. Love that fuckin neighborhood. Have you ever been to the St. Rocco fest. I was thinking of going this year. I heard it is sponsored by "some people." One of my favourite fests in the city! So much fun. Yes, I'll be there this year. You should most certainly go. You will see some heavies for sure. Nice I will be there. Quick question, you can PM me if you don't feel comfortable putting it out there (or not answering at all), but aside from the Cap'n who else is associated with the ONIASC these days? Don't answer if you're not comfortable, it was just something I was curious about.
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