You basically made my point for me. Tammany Hall went up into the 1960's. Costello was pulling the strings in the 1950's and before. And you, as a Chicago guy, hardly have any room about bringing up info from the past. Chicago being more crooked than New York or New Jersey is debatable. In terms of mob-related corruption, certainly not more corrupt than Jersey. And even in New York, I think that there were no single big mob cases, where multiple crooked pols, judges, lawyers, etc. were rounded up (like Greylord and Gambit) gives the false impression there wasn't much of that there.