I know its been debated here forever, I was reading some old articles I cant remember if it was casso d'arco or fat pete. but when vic amuso started hiding out in 1989 he made pat testa joe testa and Anthony senter.pat testa was his liason with Brooklyn, joe and Anthony senter were fighting there rico trisl out on bail. they were inducted into the luchese family. senter and joe testa got life in june 1989 and I think there bail was revoked in early 1989. so it probably happened Christmas 1988 around when jr gotti and mickey scars got made. we know carlo profeta got made what about the rest of them guys ustica,rega Salvatore mangalino?