Murray weiss obviously!

If the report is true then its clear to everyone who reads it, he made him underboss with the thought of him taking his place one day, if cali don't want to be boss then he should'nt be underboss, he should be knocked back down to captin, if the reports are correct

I guess i run a tight ship

The report is bullshit which makes your theory null and void. Next. How's that for tight?

Hahahahaha I think I llike u carmela, I'm from the old school when the family want u to be the boss you don't say no, on the other hand, if the report is false then this whole thread don't matter

You sound like an idiot fan boy you know that?

And I'm sure u have better things to do than to respond to a statement that was' t directed at u (bro, your name is 123joeschmo get real)

I agree with this about the boss. I've said plenty of times, Cali doesn't want the heat, he's doing well where he is, BUT if Cefalu wants him as boss, then that's it.
I said it. I swear I did. Really.

Dude it's not like I gave a lot of thought into the name. You're reading too much into it

Liar! Your name took weeks to devise and many witnesses sadly perished

This is all too weird, he was just promoted to UB in the last few months, right..? Now boss...?

Just doesn't make sense and more surprising is that we are hearing about it in virtual "real time"..

Arcobaleno Italiano was not a fruit store, it was an electronics store and also a video and music store. Cali's father owned it and Domenico Adamita was a partner of his in the business...at least i know he was at the beginning. Adamita and his brothers were huge heroin guys. Where Weiss came up with it being a fruit store is beyond me.

And the part where Cali supposedly said he "was under the radar". GTFOH, under the radar. He's had a bullseye on his back for years now. He is hardly under the radar and i doubt he ever said that. I would say Cali, Cefalu and John Gambino are all at the top of the feds list of Gambino guys to put away.

ya look whats next to it... YEA REAL LOW KEY.

Tony comes home in December of next year. But I agree that the "top hood in Connecticut" remark is ridiculous. They haven't made a Fairfield Gambino since Tony because the place is a giant clusterfuck for them (and no, Dean is NOT made, no matter what some Internet chart says).

That being said, Tony is the only guy who seems to be able to run that area even halfway efficiently. Every time he goes away, the guy who gets put in the top spot fucks it up. That's why it's always been an associate. They just don't want to make any of those guys because they're shellshocked from what always happens up there. The first time Tony went away they put Davy Crockett in charge and he ended up a federal witness against Junior. Tony came home for a few years, and when he went back inside Dean started to run things. Now he's a standup kid and a good earner, but he's also forever getting arrested.

Tony will come home next year and stay close to home. He's a relatively low key guy (in that he's not very flashy and he doesn't really hang out in mob spots). He's a Connecticut guy through and through. Give him the gambling and the run af that area and he'll be content.

@ LittleNicky: You really can't lay Greg Depalma on Tony because I know for a fact that he got stuck with him. Shit like that happens. A guy like Tony will often "inherit" a guy like that.

Sons of Ragusa.

On Giancarlo's post...maybe Weiss meant Circus Fruits? Who the hell knows, he's a mess, I hope he gets shanked.

How can the reporter mix up an electronic store with a fruit store ? Lol

Quite possibly one of the most error filled stories in some time . How long did it take Giancarlo to verify that , 20 minutes, lol ( btw thanks for the info )

I don't think their should be a boss of any family anymore .

Doing things like the Genovese with a rotating panel is definately the way to go and my guess would be the Gambinos with Cefalu , John Gambino and other top guys have something similiar these days. An actual boss today doesn't make much sense , it's likely best to keep things mysterious and the Feds always guessing.

It seems like the NYC families are doing a decent job of keeping us and possibly law enforcement guessing on what is going on.

Shhh....

The most error filled story since the first one Weiss put out. We already pulled it all apart the first time around, and knew it wasn't a fruit store. He mixed up Cali's father's business with Cali's. Simple.

I was thinking that too......maybe Weiss confusing Cali's fathers store with Circus fruits.

Who knows, maybe when Cali was a young kid he had a fruit stand in front of his fathers store. You never know. lol

I think that Arcobaleno's is now closed, not positive on that though.

Yeah, they're closed.

Thanks Carmela.

Ok, now i'm convinced Murray Weiss has lost his mind. In this article that Weiss wrote in june he says Tony Pro strangled Jimmy Hoffa in the car as they drove away from the restaurant. He says that Tony Giacalone, Tony Pro and Chuckie Obrien picked up Hoffa, then Tony Pro strangled him. Then Weiss claims that they put Hoffa through a wood chipper. And he says he got all this from his law enforcement source who is " close to the investigation".

You have to read this article, just unbelievable what he's writing these days. Just pure bullshit.

http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20130620...per-source-says

Davey CROCKETT AS IN DAVE IACOVELLI WAS A GOVT WITNESS AGAINST Gotti? I cant believe it I thought he was old school

Different "Davy Crockett." I was referencing the "Davy Crockett" up in Connecticut. His real name is Joe Fusaro and he flipped back in '98 during the Scores shakedown case. Ironically, Junior called him as a witness during his last trial to help him prove that he quit the life.

That's sounds suspiciously akin to another Tony Pro legend, that when Kayo Konigsberg killed teamster Anthony Castellito in 1961 that they put his body in a wood-chipper (the body was never recovered but Koningsberg went away for it anyway). It sounds like he's just jumbling up mob legends and seeing which one sticks.

the boy bionics should set that fucking building on fire.

I would think putting a freshly killed body through a wood chipper would be messy as all hell. You'd have blood all over the place. Much easier to just toss him into an oven, assuming you have one available. The Detroit guys had access to a couple of them i believe and i would bet thats where Hoffa ended up....in one of those ovens.