Chicago is beyond right on this Vice Lord shit. Their wasn't a black/Mexican gang in the city who would've even dared to fuck with Cicero or any Italians their for that matter. Not even Larry Hoover and his group of knuckleheads. The GD's would have had a better shot at it probably.

I must say also that Vice Lords not only would've stuffed into the trash but they are nothing but trash as well. It bothers me when I hear gang bangers using word such as mafia or even gangster. Because they couldn't even match what a true authentic Gangster really is. Not to mention the majority of gangs these days and pretty much through out history are the most dis organized non-loyal group of wannabes walking the streets. The only group I would remotely give credit to was GD's in the 80's. Larry Hoover and maybe Carl Fort would be the only individuals I would consider as Gangsters who had their shit together and pretty well organized.