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Feds only have 2 squads left to combat NYC Mafia
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06/20/13 07:41 PM
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http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/feds_only_have_squads_left_to_combat_bpOGcXGuTYkqUi1ZilFROKFeds only have 2 squads left to combat city Mafia families By SELIM ALGAR June 20, 2013 Fugghedouboudit. The FBI has only two squads -- and roughly 25 agents -- left to combat New York's five Mafia families. Once a prime focus for the feds, enfeebled mob crews - worn down by death, informants, and imprisonment - are no longer considered a major menace by the agency, sources told the Post. "The mob agents are the bastard stepchildren of the FBI these days," an FBI source told the Post. "Everything is terrorism now. If you want to be somebody with a future in the FBI you want to be assigned to terrorism." The FBI once had a squad for each of the Lucchese, Genovese, Gambino, Colombo and Bonanno crews but has consolidated and contracted them in recent years. One squad handles the Lucchese and Gambino families while another handles the rest, sources said. But with 700 made mafia members and more than 7,000 associates still operating in New York, some G-men are worried that the lack of attention could lease to a Wiseguy resurgence, according to Ganglandnews.com, which first reported the shortfall today. "The Genovese family alone deserves 20 agents," a former agent told the site. "Once you only have a few agents working a crime family, you're dead in the water. You can't develop informers. You don't know what they're doing. They could be infiltrating a new industry." The FBI also had a dedicated sqaud for Albanian mobsters that now handles all Eastern European organized crime activity. The department's resources for mafia related intelligence gathering has also dried up and been rerouted to anti-terror campaigns, sources said. "If you want a couple grand to get an informant on a mob case you're going to be waiting a month," said an FBI source. "If you need that same money for a terrorism case you're going to get it the next day."
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Re: Feds only have 2 squads left to combat NYC Mafia
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06/20/13 08:04 PM
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Definitely a trend here...
1980's & 1990's - 350 FBI agents and approximately 100 NYPD detectives investigating the LCN in New York.
2001 - After 9/11, 75% of FBI agents in New York investigating the LCN reassigned either temporarily or permanently to counter-terrorism units.
2005 - total number of FBI agents investigating the LCN in New York down to 150.
2009 - The FBI in New York further downsizes it's manpower investigating the LCN, with the Lucchese, Colombo, and Bonanno families having under 10 agents each, the Gambino family 12 agents, and the Genovese family 12 agents and a handful of NYPD detectives.
2011 - the FBI combines it's five squads investigating the LCN in New York to 3 squads - one for the Gambino and Luccheses, one for the Colombos and Bonannos, and one for the Genovese - with a total of 45 agents.
2013 - the FBI further combines it's squads and reduces it's manpower investigating the New York LCN - one squad for the Genovese, Colombo, and Bonanno families and one squad for the Gambino and Lucchese families - with under 30 total agents.
Mods should mind their own business and leave poster's profile signatures alone.
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Re: Feds only have 2 squads left to combat NYC Mafia
[Re: Giancarlo]
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06/21/13 04:57 AM
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Ivy is this why there are mob busts, it is normally now quantity not quality? Like the mob bust last January against the bonannos?
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"You don't have to count the dead to understand the business of the Camorra" Gomorrah, Roberto Saviano
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Re: Feds only have 2 squads left to combat NYC Mafia
[Re: IvyLeague]
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06/21/13 10:36 AM
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Definitely a trend here...
1980's & 1990's - 350 FBI agents and approximately 100 NYPD detectives investigating the LCN in New York.
2001 - After 9/11, 75% of FBI agents in New York investigating the LCN reassigned either temporarily or permanently to counter-terrorism units.
2005 - total number of FBI agents investigating the LCN in New York down to 150.
2009 - The FBI in New York further downsizes it's manpower investigating the LCN, with the Lucchese, Colombo, and Bonanno families having under 10 agents each, the Gambino family 12 agents, and the Genovese family 12 agents and a handful of NYPD detectives.
2011 - the FBI combines it's five squads investigating the LCN in New York to 3 squads - one for the Gambino and Luccheses, one for the Colombos and Bonannos, and one for the Genovese - with a total of 45 agents.
2013 - the FBI further combines it's squads and reduces it's manpower investigating the New York LCN - one squad for the Genovese, Colombo, and Bonanno families and one squad for the Gambino and Lucchese families - with under 30 total agents.
they don't need many agents with all the wires mafia members are wearing
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Re: Feds only have 2 squads left to combat NYC Mafia
[Re: Ted]
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06/21/13 04:41 PM
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sure but is that a result to the decrease of agents?
"You shouldn’t be embarrassed by your wealth. This contempt for money is another trick by the rich to keep the poor without it" - Michael Corleone
"You don't have to count the dead to understand the business of the Camorra" Gomorrah, Roberto Saviano
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Re: Feds only have 2 squads left to combat NYC Mafia
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12/17/13 02:18 PM
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The Feds will only let them rebuild to a point. They can turn it on and off like tap water. It'll never be what it was. Everything is relative, anyway. With the advances in electronic surveillance, they just don't need as many field agents as they did twenty years ago.
That being said, two agents is still a very low number. But if the Feds think these guys are getting too strong again, they'll increase that number and stop them dead in ther tracks. The smarter bosses and skippers (like Stevie and Barney) realize this, and they're content to keep it right where it is. You don't tug on Superman's cape, and they know it.
And I hate to break it to the European posters here. But no matter how many agents have been reassigned to anti-terror, the United States government STILL has unlimited resources when it wants to use them. And that's the key:
If the wiseguys are smart, they won't try to grow themselves. Because if they do, that's when the government will put those resources into action. If the New York families keep everything status quo, they'll be able to stick around that much longer.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Feds only have 2 squads left to combat NYC Mafia
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12/18/13 11:19 AM
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I do believe the Gambino's and Genovese have 150 plus...but none of the other three NY families. I truly believe that with the Federal Government being wise to the infiltration of the labor unions, that labor racketeering has been severely reduced. Does it still go on? Sure, but not nearly to the extent that is was even 30 years ago. Labor racketeering was arguably one of the mob's biggest cash cows, so with more Federal monitoring, cash flow has to have been severely reduced as well. Granted, illegal gambling, extortion, pornography, prostitution, waste hauling and loan sharking are the mob's bread and butter, but it was crimes like Labor Racketeering, casino skimming and obviously drug trafficking were the three schemes that catapulted a lot of the American Mafia Families into extreme wealth. Some cases of stock market scams were lucrative, but then you have to deal with the SEC who monitors every transaction, which is too risky. Is truck hijacking still a common practice in NY/NJ??
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Re: Feds only have 2 squads left to combat NYC Mafia
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12/18/13 01:27 PM
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Is truck hijacking still a common practice in NY/NJ?? Ever heard of LoJack? ![lol lol](/threads/images/graemlins/classic/lol.gif) But seriously, not really. Aside from the fact that LoJack does make it next to impossible to get away with, the lion's share of Mob related hijackings were centered around the local airports. Now just try and commit an airport crime in New York City in the post 9-11 world, and they'll bury you UNDER the fucking jail ![wink wink](/threads/images/graemlins/classic/wink.gif) .
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