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Most power boss today? #720566
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Who is the most powerfully boss today out of the 10 or so crime families.


From now on, nothing goes down unless I'm involved. No blackjack no dope deals, no nothing. A nickel bag gets sold in the park, I want in. You guys got fat while everybody starved on the street. Now it's my turn.

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Whoever is running the top family in the country - the Genovese family. But that could be a ruling panel at the moment. Though one could argue that one of the official bosses of the other families could be it. Sort of the way Massino was the top boss at one point because he was the only official boss left on the street after Gotti, Chin, Amuso, and Persico were behind bars.


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Re: Most power boss today? [Re: F_white] #720656
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The top official boss has to be Cefalu followed by Crea. I douht we will find out who the westside boss is for donkey years, I hope its Barney, hes the perfect age to be boss.

Re: Most power boss today? [Re: F_white] #720895
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John DiFronzo of the Outfit. He is immune from Prosecution, has converted the Outfit into a streamlined white collar organization, is worth tens of millions, and has tremendous political white collar power in Chicago and the west suburbs. Case Closed.

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Originally Posted By: elmwoodparker
John DiFronzo of the Outfit. He is immune from Prosecution, has converted the Outfit into a streamlined white collar organization, is worth tens of millions, and has tremendous political white collar power in Chicago and the west suburbs. Case Closed.


Lol. Location: Elmwood Park.

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I'm not sure if Montreal counts in this thread...

but based on everything I have read I would think Vito is hands down when it comes to political connections, wealth, international juice, etc...and hes never been touched really by law enforcement there

Re: Most power boss today? [Re: elmwoodparker] #720936
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Originally Posted By: elmwoodparker
John DiFronzo of the Outfit. He is immune from Prosecution, has converted the Outfit into a streamlined white collar organization, is worth tens of millions, and has tremendous political white collar power in Chicago and the west suburbs. Case Closed.


Keep dreaming. There are guys in New York way more stacked, DiFronzo is rich and powerful don't get me wrong but compared to guys like Barney, Crea or Allie shades? Not even close


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Re: Most power boss today? [Re: Shamm11375] #720940
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Originally Posted By: Shamm11375
I'm not sure if Montreal counts in this thread...

but based on everything I have read I would think Vito is hands down when it comes to political connections, wealth, international juice, etc...and hes never been touched really by law enforcement there



Vito had 20 made guys at the families peak, half of them got whacked out. If he was so powerful that would never have happened.

Re: Most power boss today? [Re: F_white] #720942
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In 20 yrs you will find out who runs the westside, then 5 years later it will come out that it was someone else.... Opinions will turn into fact, and most will be drawn to the wrong conclusions. Even if i wanted to i doubt i could explain what im trying to say here. Everyone knows whos number one on the street but does he the point guard or the coach? Thats why i always say Danny Leo was A acting boss, not The Acting boss. You really think 30 captains are gonna go kiss the ring at raos every two weeks?

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Joe Schmo, Those 3 guys must have cracked open very large parking meters.

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Re: Most power boss today? [Re: elmwoodparker] #720972
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Originally Posted By: elmwoodparker
Joe Schmo, Those 3 guys must have cracked open very large parking meters.


Don't be jealous, my friend. One day you too might figure out how to crack open a parking meter. Maybe.

Re: Most power boss today? [Re: elmwoodparker] #720981
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Originally Posted By: elmwoodparker
Joe Schmo, Those 3 guys must have cracked open very large parking meters.


If you really think top New York guys don't have money you're certifiably insane


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Re: Most power boss today? [Re: Skinny] #720982
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Originally Posted By: Skinny
In 20 yrs you will find out who runs the westside, then 5 years later it will come out that it was someone else.... Opinions will turn into fact, and most will be drawn to the wrong conclusions. Even if i wanted to i doubt i could explain what im trying to say here. Everyone knows whos number one on the street but does he the point guard or the coach? Thats why i always say Danny Leo was A acting boss, not The Acting boss. You really think 30 captains are gonna go kiss the ring at raos every two weeks?


+1 skin


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Re: Most power boss today? [Re: F_white] #720985
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John DiFronzo is not even in the top 10. Elmwood, can you post any evidence whatsoever that the nose and the outfit has that kind of power?


Should probably ask Mr. Kierney. I guess if you're Italian, you should be in prison.
I've read the RICO Act, and I can tell you it's more appropriate...
for some of those guys over in Washington than it is for me or any of my fellas here
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Originally Posted By: LittleNicky
John DiFronzo is not even in the top 10. Elmwood, can you post any evidence whatsoever that the nose and the outfit has that kind of power?


this


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Is difronzo retired?


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Re: Most power boss today? [Re: cheech] #720992
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Originally Posted By: cheech
Originally Posted By: LittleNicky
John DiFronzo is not even in the top 10. Elmwood, can you post any evidence whatsoever that the nose and the outfit has that kind of power?


this

Not this. Not true at all there's plenty of evidence

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Nicky grow a fucking pair already

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Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
Originally Posted By: cheech
Originally Posted By: LittleNicky
John DiFronzo is not even in the top 10. Elmwood, can you post any evidence whatsoever that the nose and the outfit has that kind of power?


this

Not this. Not true at all there's plenty of evidence


And where might I find this "plenty of evidence"?

Judging from indictments, either Chicago finally found the mafia holy grail (ie the secert method of avoiding FBI interference) or they aren't a very big family any more/gone mostly legit or semi-legit.


Should probably ask Mr. Kierney. I guess if you're Italian, you should be in prison.
I've read the RICO Act, and I can tell you it's more appropriate...
for some of those guys over in Washington than it is for me or any of my fellas here
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good for them legit money is the best money. lets not forget that they had to kill steal and cheat to get there so im sure the rep stays with them. bet theres a million buttons beggin to do a hit still. it never ends.

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All the legit things restaurants, car dealerships, construction companies, food lines, and things like that. Then all the other money from illegitimate things. He's probably behind the top 3 NYC guys but other than that no. I find it hard to believe that there's tons of guys in NYC worth over 30 million dollars. And skinny please just fuck off.

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Difronzo is el capo de tutti capi. He controls the commission.


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Re: Most power boss today? [Re: F_white] #721026
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So it coming down to Barney or Crea ? Difronzo is so low key but what happen to he maybe a rat talk that have be said by a few people


From now on, nothing goes down unless I'm involved. No blackjack no dope deals, no nothing. A nickel bag gets sold in the park, I want in. You guys got fat while everybody starved on the street. Now it's my turn.

Re: Most power boss today? [Re: elmwoodparker] #721031
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Originally Posted By: elmwoodparker
Joe Schmo, Those 3 guys must have cracked open very large parking meters.
why do u take 1 scene from a fucking movie of all things to form your arugement against new york families, thats just ignorant


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Between the top 2 its not even close.

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Originally Posted By: Dellacroce
Originally Posted By: elmwoodparker
Joe Schmo, Those 3 guys must have cracked open very large parking meters.
why do u take 1 scene from a fucking movie of all things to form your arugement against new york families, thats just ignorant

That was in the movie, in the book Pistone was saying one day your doing 100k scores the next your cracking parking meters so he was just talking about the up and down earning some of of these guys were doing. Whether they were really cracking parking meters, who knows. But hey a score is a score. lol clap

"Besides the bookmaking operation, there were all kinds
of scams and schemes around. Little ones and big ones.
These guys might pull off a $100,000 score one day, rob a
parking meter the day after. Anything where there’s a dime
to be ripped off."

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Ah i forget it was also in joes book, looks like i was being kinda ignornant, apologies elmwood, but still to compare chicago to new york 30 or 40 years you could make a pretty good argument, but to do so today with 3 or 4 crews with under 30 made guys is pretty laughable despite how many millions difronzo has.


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I'm not sure they were actually doing it, i think it's possible Pistone was just trying to explain the up and down earning some of these guys were doing. But like i said, who knows maybe they were, i don't know. But Elmwood really latched on to that parking meter shit, actually pretty funny. lol

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Haha ya i saw him on at least 3 or 4 other threads saying it over and over so i felt like i had to say something, pretty funny the way him and ivy go at it.


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Originally Posted By: Skinny
In 20 yrs you will find out who runs the westside, then 5 years later it will come out that it was someone else.... Opinions will turn into fact, and most will be drawn to the wrong conclusions. Even if i wanted to i doubt i could explain what im trying to say here. Everyone knows whos number one on the street but does he the point guard or the coach? Thats why i always say Danny Leo was A acting boss, not The Acting boss. You really think 30 captains are gonna go kiss the ring at raos every two weeks?


It seems to me that a ruling panel (which is essentially a group of acting bosses) has always been in place. And, at certain times, they will have one of them step up as the acting boss to run things day to day. But the ruling panel still has over all power. That appears to have been the case with Leo, who was on the ruling panel before he was identified as acting boss.

Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
All the legit things restaurants, car dealerships, construction companies, food lines, and things like that. Then all the other money from illegitimate things. He's probably behind the top 3 NYC guys but other than that no. I find it hard to believe that there's tons of guys in NYC worth over 30 million dollars. And skinny please just fuck off.


All this may be true (though elmwoodpark is fantasizing about DiFronzo being immune from prosecution, etc.) but it's not reflective of his power as an LCN boss. The ultimate power a boss has is based on the strength of organization he's the boss of. And that's why DiFronzo, as rich as he may be personally, is going to be #6 at best. And that's assuming he's still the boss to begin with.


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