The origin of the NY Family´s NJ crews is extremely interesting (at least to me). It looks like members of a Newark Family, created by Joe Masseria around 1928 and disbanded by the Commission sometime in the early 1930s, were given new memberships with the NY Families. Most of them, because of close ties with the Genovese Family (Luciano Family at the time) became members of that Family. A faction led by Antonio Paterno ended up with the Gambino Family (led by Mangano at the time). Another faction led by Settimo "Sam" Accardi ended up with the Luccheses (led by Tommaso Gagliano at the time) and the Profacis absorbed a crew led by Salvatore Lombardino and the Cammaratas. Although powerful, I doubt that this Newark Family rivaled any of the New York ones in power. Neither did the second Family operating in North Jersey, the DeCavalcantes.

Off the top of my head, there was a rift (to say the least) between the Lucchese Family and its NJ crew in the late 1980s. This rift led to Accetturo turning state witness after the Lucchese bosses (Amuso and Casso) ordered killings on several leading members of Accetturo´s crew (Accetturo included).

Yep. Here is a bit more:

"Anthony "Ham" Delasco (correct spelling Dolasco) was the leader of The Jersey Crew for the Lucchese crime family in the late 1950s and 1960s. He took over the crew after Settimo "Big Sam" Accardi was deported. Delasco was a former boxer and when he became boss he ran the Newark rackets with an iron fist. Durning the time when Delasco was boss he dabbled in most rackets. He had a keen interest in jukeboxes and Persuaded bar owner use approved jukebox or cigarette machine in their tavern or could end up getting visited by some of Delasco men. Delasco, is best known for bringing in Anthony Accetturo to his crew. Accetturo was a street thug trying to make a name for himself. Accetturo and his gang was shaking down bookmakers and loansharks that worked for Delasco. Delasco soon found Accetturo and was impressed with him. Accetturo was soon Delasco's driver and Protégé learning trades in illegal gambling. When Delasco died (1963), the New Jersey rackets and The Jersey Crew were taken over by Accetturo."

Accetturo himself said that it wasn't Delasco who led the Jersey crew when he was made, but Joe Abate. On page 10 of "Five Families," where he talks about Delasco he never said he was a caporegime. It may be that Abate took over from Sam Accardi, not Delasco.

I would agree that the New Jersey is the base of the Genovese family now. There are few Genovese (or italians) in Manhattan at all anymore. How many italians neighborhoods in the bronx are left? (throgs neck, pelham, what else?). They have only one crew in queens and none on long island. All there main operations seem to be Jersey, Brooklyn, the northern suburbs and Springfield, Mass.

I mean has anyone been to the "west side" of manhattan recently? Do you see anything resembling a neighborhood environment? All I see is yuppies and super luxury condos.

I would agree that the New Jersey is the base of the Genovese family now. There are few Genovese (or italians) in Manhattan at all anymore. How many italians neighborhoods in the bronx are left? (throgs neck, pelham, what else?). They have only one crew in queens and none on long island. All there main operations seem to be Jersey, Brooklyn, the northern suburbs and Springfield, Mass.

I mean has anyone been to the "west side" of manhattan recently? Do you see anything resembling a neighborhood environment? All I see is yuppies and super luxury condos.

I would wager that no major players are stationed in manhattan anymore.

Most of the old presence in East Harlem may be gone but the Genovese still have a lot of activity in Manhattan as a whole. I'd say Manhattan and the Bronx continues to be the base of the family. That's where the top leadership has been for years now. New Jersey is certainly important, and a Jersey guy will be on the ruling panel now and again, but they're answerable to New York.

Hey pizza and ivy,

You guys have very informative posts. Enjoy reading them.

As for the gentrification: More like segregation, except not by race, by class. The hipsters forced out the polish from greenpoint, greeks from astoria and are now pushing out the Irish from wooside/sunnyside. Midwestern kids with endless free time, small personal fortunes and an aversion to manual labor of any kind now occupy half the city. I hate to sound harsh but I think its the truth. And I'm sick of all their world saving advice and advocacy. It seems like every one of these idiots has a million dollar trust fund and a cause.

And as for the Genovese discussion: I think I am equating the word "base" with a home base, not a business base. From that perspective, most families in the construstion rackets can still call manhattan their base.

To illustrate some of the points being made about NYC demographics, this is a racial/ethnic map from the 2010 census:
http://www.urbanresearchmaps.org/comparinator/pluralitymap.htm

Thanks, buddy . And I completely agree about the hipsters and the gentrification.

Funny that you mentioned Astoria. I'm a Bronx guy but I own a rental property just off 36th and 30th. I've had these kids in my buildings, both in Queens and in the Village. The only saving grace is that they don't stay too long. They usually head back to Ohio after 2 or 3 years. The novelty wears off, but m[b]eanwhile they've displaced a family that's been here for generations. It's sickening.[/b]

Aren't you the one who misplaced the family? You would lose money renting to a new yorker at a fixed amount compared to hipsters which you can capitalize on. I'm not judging you PB I'd do the same thing just because your from the same city doesn't mean shit

Given the choice, I'd much rather have locals. But at the end of the day, you can't turn the hipsters away. If I don't rent to them the guy next door will. And for A LOT more money. My wife and I are very fair about the rents.