Originally Posted By: TonyG
This is another questions that has me curious - what, if any, involvement do the Bonanno's have in Montreal. The whole Montagna thing makes one think that they were still involved. It also seems that since George was whacked, Montreal acted as its own family. My gut instinct is that the Bonanno's still had some minor involvement with the Rizzuto's, and when Montagna went to Montreal, the relations picked up. Now that Montagna is dead, my guess is there is little to no contact.


One one hand, Sal Vitale testified that after the murder of Sciascia back in the late 1990's, the Bonanno family and the Montreal faction severed ties. On the other hand, Rizzuto reportedly had a conversation where he said he refused to recognize Sal Montagna as his boss. This was when Montagna was acting boss in New York. So, there may still be some ties but not like it was in years past. And people can bring up Montagna getting involved in affairs in Montreal but he had been born in Canada and was only back there to begin with because he was deported.

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
It suprises me how long this debate on whether Fernandez and Desjardins are made endures. Fernandez was a gorilla who talked and behaved loudly and his statements should be taken with a grain of salt.


The wiretap aside, I'd have to see more evidence to believe these non-Italians were made. How much power Rizzuto had isn't going to make these other guys automatically recognized by others.

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