@ivyleague


less mouths to feed means more money

madeguys in ny bicker over money because they're so many of them

madeguys in Chicago can operate without interference for the most part

Cook County, Very true. The Made guys in Chicago ran their own crews either by themselves or in partnership with another made guy. Examples would be Frank & Nick Calabrese, Dominic Cortina & Donald Angelini. Examples of singular would be Tony Spilotro, Rocky Infelice Etc. These made guys were equal to the Captains in New York who received a percentage of the made guys under them. The Made guys in Chicago were a big deal because Chicago was very select in who they made, unlike New York who made everybody they could think of so the Captains could extort their percentage from them. That's why New York, for the most part, is rat infested AND MOST MEMBERS SCRAPE BY like in the movie Donnie Brasco which shows what the Mob is really like in New York. The Movie was based upon an actual F.B.I. informant who got made rather quickly into one of the 5 Families.( Naturally, he got made very quickly since New York makes everybody and their brother).

The Outfit in 2013 is about 50% less in man power compared to the Auippa Days, however, they are more white collar which is a good thing. New made guys are usually relatives of older men and are less and less blue collar. New York is still mainly blue collar which means it will not last as long. The Only strong New York Family with very few rats that has a vision OF THE FUTURE is the GENOVESE FAMILY.

He wasn't made.

For all realistic intents and purposes, HE WAS MADE. He was direct with his captain and he was ACCEPTED to be made. They never got around to their Boy Scouts pricking of the finger because the Feds busted the whole thing right before it happened. Do you remember seeing the MADE GUYS in Sonny Black's Crew cracking open parking meters to make some money so they could kick a percentage of it up to him? Also, the minute Sonny Black got something going in Florida, another Captain IN HIS OWN FAMILY conspired with the Florida Boss to ruin the whole thing. That was back in the late 1970's. Can you imagine how pathetic is is now in 2013? That movie was very realistic because it was based upon the Feds which is the Bible of these Blogs. Watch the movie again.

Also, the minute Sonny Black got something going in Florida, another Captain IN HIS OWN FAMILY conspired with the Florida Boss to ruin the whole thing.


LOL that was funny the sonny red guy got jelous and also wanted to whack SB entire crew

What is chicagos policy on guys turning down their buttonn.Do guys have a choice or is it seen as disrespectful?

Chicago was always very very selective in making a man, unlike New York, LOL. In Chicago, when a man was made, he ran his own crew by himself or with another made man as his 'hands on' partner. In his crew were soldiers/associates who worked for him doing specific jobs. The made man was a partner with his Area Boss (CAPO). The Area Bosses were all partnered with the two Top Bosses. In order for a man to be made, he had to have participated in a murder in some way or another. After that happened, The Capo at some point would ask the Top Bosses if this new man working in the crew could be elevated to run some kind of a franchise. If the Two Top Bosses agreed, then the man would be made with a handshake and a dinner in his honor. So, to really answer your question, a man knew WAY in advance what he was aiming to accomplish. Yes, the man could politely refuse the "button" and remain as a soldier/associate with no hard feelings at all. However, once a man participated in a murder, there really was no turning back. A man could refuse to be involved in a murder and there wpuld be no hard feelings. This is what happened with my Uncle. It takes a certain kind of man to be involved in killing someone because he has been ordered to do it. This is not for everyone.