Johnnynonos, I agree with you 100%. The Chicago Outfit is structured differently than New York and years ago didn't have the East Coast pricking your finger Ceremony. New York and Chicago are like two Companies in the same business that are organized differently and actually have some philosophical differences about a few things. The Outfit NEVER had over 75 made members EVER in their entire history. At their peak in the early 1960's, there were about 75 made guys and 225 soldiers. Soldiers are NOT made guys in Chicago. They work for the made guys and assist them in doing 'BUSINESS' with the street associates ( 25% street bookies, bar owners with poker machines etc.) People should stop talking about the Outfit like it's a carbon copy of a New York Family, stop comparing it to a New York Family, and shut the fuck up and truthfully say 'I'm sorry but I really don't know much about Chicago only that it's different than New York'. That is an answer I can respect.