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Re: Mob Ecounters [Re: NickyEyes1] #664117
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^^^Yes, Gotti Jr was made on Christmas Eve 1988 along with Mikey Scars DiLeonardo and Skinny Dom Pizzonia


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Re: Mob Ecounters [Re: carmela] #664132
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Originally Posted By: carmela
Ok, let me start off nice and easy to get this puppy back on track, and share one story:

When I was 19, I met a guy who insisted on taking me out. Something wasn't right about him, but he wouldn't give up. So I agreed. Well, he turned out to be a creep like I thought. Anyway, I was already living in Jersey when I met him. After a couple weeks knowing him, he'd ask if we could take rides to Queens, but using my car. I was young, I was naive, I agreed. He'd always have to swing by this mechanic's garage in Queens, first, to pick up an envelope(s) and I'd have to wait in the car. Then he'd go double park in front of houses or businesses around queens and bklyn, and run the envelope in to somebody. One day, he told me to come into the garage with him. Turns out it was Jr. Gotti in there working on bikes and cars and such, and this coked up schmuck I was seeing was working for him running these envelopes. After that, he'd always take me inside and leave me there to hang out while he'd go run his envelopes with MY CAR! One day, I finally HAD it with this guy, I was done. He took me on another one of his runs, and while he was in the house, i jumped in the driver seat and left, and I never went back. Do you know the prick never called me after that? grin
Anyway, this was a Jr. Gotti story. And as for meeting and hanging out somewhat with Jr, I can say he was an arrogant guy, never mind the fact he was hitting on me everytime coke head left me alone there.


Very often example...the point is(i know you know this)he used you for your car so he can run his business,a lot of guys i know from back in the days used their girls cars for their own purpose but some of the girls were soooo stupid taht didnt realized what was happening,some of em even used their homes to keep drugs,guns and cash...."that's amore" tongue


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Re: Mob Ecounters [Re: NickyEyes1] #664148
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The fact that Italian Dom, many Inzerillos and several reputed mobbed-up social clubs are all based in Bensonhurst shows how we have to wait to cheer...soon tho.

Re: Mob Ecounters [Re: NickyEyes1] #664155
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So it's gambino territory?

Re: Mob Ecounters [Re: NickyEyes1] #664157
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Dunno. I once read that some Colombos were in the area (see Spata).
Still, many social clubs are simply reputed mob hangouts due to some members being labelled as such.

Re: Mob Ecounters [Re: Toodoped] #664168
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Originally Posted By: Toodoped
Originally Posted By: carmela
Ok, let me start off nice and easy to get this puppy back on track, and share one story:

When I was 19, I met a guy who insisted on taking me out. Something wasn't right about him, but he wouldn't give up. So I agreed. Well, he turned out to be a creep like I thought. Anyway, I was already living in Jersey when I met him. After a couple weeks knowing him, he'd ask if we could take rides to Queens, but using my car. I was young, I was naive, I agreed. He'd always have to swing by this mechanic's garage in Queens, first, to pick up an envelope(s) and I'd have to wait in the car. Then he'd go double park in front of houses or businesses around queens and bklyn, and run the envelope in to somebody. One day, he told me to come into the garage with him. Turns out it was Jr. Gotti in there working on bikes and cars and such, and this coked up schmuck I was seeing was working for him running these envelopes. After that, he'd always take me inside and leave me there to hang out while he'd go run his envelopes with MY CAR! One day, I finally HAD it with this guy, I was done. He took me on another one of his runs, and while he was in the house, i jumped in the driver seat and left, and I never went back. Do you know the prick never called me after that? grin
Anyway, this was a Jr. Gotti story. And as for meeting and hanging out somewhat with Jr, I can say he was an arrogant guy, never mind the fact he was hitting on me everytime coke head left me alone there.


Very often example...the point is(i know you know this)he used you for your car so he can run his business,a lot of guys i know from back in the days used their girls cars for their own purpose but some of the girls were soooo stupid taht didnt realized what was happening,some of em even used their homes to keep drugs,guns and cash...."that's amore" tongue


That bastard!!! grin

Next encounter: When I got married in the mid 90's, Frank Cali and his parents attended the reception. Frank's dad had been a long time friend of my father-in-law from back in Sicily. A few here know this already and an even fewer have seen a photo of Frank and I at my wedding.


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Re: Mob Ecounters [Re: carmela] #664170
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You should post the pic but first scratch your face on the pic for any case and your husbands face of course,dont wanna get him in any trouble now do you wink


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Re: Mob Ecounters [Re: carmela] #665271
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Originally Posted By: carmela
Ok, let me start off nice and easy to get this puppy back on track, and share one story:

When I was 19, I met a guy who insisted on taking me out. Something wasn't right about him, but he wouldn't give up. So I agreed. Well, he turned out to be a creep like I thought. Anyway, I was already living in Jersey when I met him. After a couple weeks knowing him, he'd ask if we could take rides to Queens, but using my car. I was young, I was naive, I agreed. He'd always have to swing by this mechanic's garage in Queens, first, to pick up an envelope(s) and I'd have to wait in the car. Then he'd go double park in front of houses or businesses around queens and bklyn, and run the envelope in to somebody. One day, he told me to come into the garage with him. Turns out it was Jr. Gotti in there working on bikes and cars and such, and this coked up schmuck I was seeing was working for him running these envelopes. After that, he'd always take me inside and leave me there to hang out while he'd go run his envelopes with MY CAR! One day, I finally HAD it with this guy, I was done. He took me on another one of his runs, and while he was in the house, i jumped in the driver seat and left, and I never went back. Do you know the prick never called me after that? grin
Anyway, this was a Jr. Gotti story. And as for meeting and hanging out somewhat with Jr, I can say he was an arrogant guy, never mind the fact he was hitting on me everytime coke head left me alone there.


Great Story.. Jr. Gotti looks like he did a lot of juice.


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Re: Mob Ecounters [Re: DickNose_Moltasanti] #665274
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I was walking down Sullivan Street back in the early-1980s and remember seeing some guys running away from a car, shouting something about rats. Turns out that Selwyn Raab also wrote about it in Five Families!

Re: Mob Ecounters [Re: NickyEyes1] #665283
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I saw liborio bellomo once was walking in New York and went into a bar sat at the bar andsaw him at the other end i raised my glass to him drunk my scotch got up and walked out

Re: Mob Ecounters [Re: DickNose_Moltasanti] #665294
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Originally Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti
Originally Posted By: carmela
Ok, let me start off nice and easy to get this puppy back on track, and share one story:

When I was 19, I met a guy who insisted on taking me out. Something wasn't right about him, but he wouldn't give up. So I agreed. Well, he turned out to be a creep like I thought. Anyway, I was already living in Jersey when I met him. After a couple weeks knowing him, he'd ask if we could take rides to Queens, but using my car. I was young, I was naive, I agreed. He'd always have to swing by this mechanic's garage in Queens, first, to pick up an envelope(s) and I'd have to wait in the car. Then he'd go double park in front of houses or businesses around queens and bklyn, and run the envelope in to somebody. One day, he told me to come into the garage with him. Turns out it was Jr. Gotti in there working on bikes and cars and such, and this coked up schmuck I was seeing was working for him running these envelopes. After that, he'd always take me inside and leave me there to hang out while he'd go run his envelopes with MY CAR! One day, I finally HAD it with this guy, I was done. He took me on another one of his runs, and while he was in the house, i jumped in the driver seat and left, and I never went back. Do you know the prick never called me after that? grin
Anyway, this was a Jr. Gotti story. And as for meeting and hanging out somewhat with Jr, I can say he was an arrogant guy, never mind the fact he was hitting on me everytime coke head left me alone there.


Great Story.. Jr. Gotti looks like he did a lot of juice.


Junior always seemed (at least in pictures) to try way too hard to act like a tough guy. He needed steroids and weight lifting to make him feel like "man's man"! Deep down he was probably anything but!

Re: Mob Ecounters [Re: JasonAnthony74] #665296
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He had to equal or better his father in terms of reputation. Like Anthony Soprano Jr. He had to do the whole club scene, buying expensive wine to 'live the life' with his crew and act like his father. Trouble is, when the bill comes also comes the realisation that the things he does are strictly small time. Junior Gotti was weak, but couldn't flip.

Why? Because his father stood by Omerta. So did he.

Re: Mob Ecounters [Re: DeMeo] #665299
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Originally Posted By: DeMeo
He had to equal or better his father in terms of reputation. Like Anthony Soprano Jr. He had to do the whole club scene, buying expensive wine to 'live the life' with his crew and act like his father. Trouble is, when the bill comes also comes the realisation that the things he does are strictly small time. Junior Gotti was weak, but couldn't flip.

Why? Because his father stood by Omerta. So did he.


I don't think his father had anything to do with it you could say the same about Sonny Franzese and his sone became an informant .

Re: Mob Ecounters [Re: Camarel] #665301
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He had to equal or better his father in terms of reputation. Like Anthony Soprano Jr. He had to do the whole club scene, buying expensive wine to 'live the life' with his crew and act like his father. Trouble is, when the bill comes also comes the realisation that the things he does are strictly small time. Junior Gotti was weak, but couldn't flip.

Why? Because his father stood by Omerta. So did he.


I don't think his father had anything to do with it you could say the same about Sonny Franzese and his sone became an informant .


But Sonny Franzese wasn't as arrogant and egotistical as John Gotti. For you to compare Franzese and Gotti is insane.

Re: Mob Ecounters [Re: DeMeo] #665307
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Originally Posted By: DeMeo
Originally Posted By: Camarel
Originally Posted By: DeMeo
He had to equal or better his father in terms of reputation. Like Anthony Soprano Jr. He had to do the whole club scene, buying expensive wine to 'live the life' with his crew and act like his father. Trouble is, when the bill comes also comes the realisation that the things he does are strictly small time. Junior Gotti was weak, but couldn't flip.

Why? Because his father stood by Omerta. So did he.


I don't think his father had anything to do with it you could say the same about Sonny Franzese and his sone became an informant .


But Sonny Franzese wasn't as arrogant and egotistical as John Gotti. For you to compare Franzese and Gotti is insane.


You gave the reason Junior didn't flip as his father stood by omerta all i was saying was so did Sonny and his son flipped i wasn't comparing their characters .

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Originally Posted By: DeMeo
I was walking down Sullivan Street back in the early-1980s and remember seeing some guys running away from a car, shouting something about rats. Turns out that Selwyn Raab also wrote about it in Five Families!


What did Selwyn Raab say was story behind that incident ?

Re: Mob Ecounters [Re: NickyEyes1] #665328
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Sullivan St. is where Gigante hung around. The FBI who watched the place use to have this technique that was part psychological warfare and part practical joke. They'd have an agent put a paper bag over his head, kinda like Igor Gouzenko, and drive by the club as if an Informant was pointing out people and naming names.

Its an old and tested theory that when a criminal reacts in fear or under pressure, he slips up.

Didn't really work with the calculated Gigante.


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Re: Mob Ecounters [Re: NickyEyes1] #696253
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Cool thread after all...once you get 4 pages in.


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Re: Mob Ecounters [Re: NickyEyes1] #696401
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I almost got kicked off for this thread lol

Re: Mob Ecounters [Re: NickyEyes1] #696446
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I didnt really know him when he was young, but from the stories ive heard and knowing him now, Junior has really mellowed out. All the guys on here talkin a bunch of shit about him dont know him. Going off what u read about the guy when he was young and in the life, yeah he seemed like a spoiled jerkoff. Ive heard he himself call himself a punk. Honestly, imo he wasnt meant for the life.... But whatever thats neither here nor there. Those that know me know i dont suck up to these kindof guys. Hes a nice guy, and u wont hear me say a bad word about him or any of his relatives.

Nice ass house to.

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I once got drunk and asked if the owner of a local bar knew a fairly well known reputed hit man/street crew boss who was known to hang out there. We were standing in the alley; he was smoking, I was leaving. He asked "yep;who wants to know?" I didnt know what to say so said "maybe I want to make a bet or something." He said "we don't take bets in this bar!"

I got the hell out and dint go back for about a year.

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Lmao i got chased out of a bar once bc i was handing out like sixety football cards to everyperson in the bar! I was like 17... I offered to sell cards (no commission) too a bartender i knew for 40 per 100 cards... He could just email me the lines and id print them. The guy was a dope, he forgot that u cant adjust lines once the tickets have been printed, and he just used the vegas lines, which no one would lay off for, hed have to buy a point at a online book (and not beteagle mind you...) and hed still lose anywhere from .18-.25 per point... Needless to say, by the end of October he was asking if i could loan him money for rent.... Nah bro....

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I cant stop laughing at the face that u would jump in the driver sat and leave em lol

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Originally Posted By: Skinny
I didnt really know him when he was young, but from the stories ive heard and knowing him now, Junior has really mellowed out. All the guys on here talkin a bunch of shit about him dont know him. Going off what u read about the guy when he was young and in the life, yeah he seemed like a spoiled jerkoff. Ive heard he himself call himself a punk. Honestly, imo he wasnt meant for the life.... But whatever thats neither here nor there. Those that know me know i dont suck up to these kindof guys. Hes a nice guy, and u wont hear me say a bad word about him or any of his relatives.

Nice ass house to.


Do you care to elaborate on your encounter with Gotti Jr. For what reason did he call himself a punk?

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Very interesting.


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I have interacted with Tough Tony.

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Here is a story from Brookwood Country Club. It was a club in DuPage essentially FOR the Outfit and owned by Jackie Cerone Jr. and Anthony Solano (Vincent's son who is a land developer.) Everyone from Tony Accardo to Jack Tocco of Detroit would play here regularly and the card games at night would go on for hours and hours on end.

If you ever caddied for Sam Urbana then you knew he cheated his ass off--mainly dropping new balls conveniently when his original ball had a bad lie or was unplayable. If Joe Lombardo was in the same foursome, he would hand Sam's caddy a few "special" balls and a benjamin if you handed that one to Sam. Most caddies were put between a rock and a hard place--Sam was a mean fuck but most knew Lumbo's reputation so they went along with it. The balls exploded and every time Sam hit one, Lumbo would erupt in laughter and give the caddies a lesson on cheating at Sam's expense. Lumbo pulled the same gambit on a few other guys too.

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Hey Chitown when and why did Brookwood close?

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Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
Hey Chitown when and why did Brookwood close?


I believe it closed in the 1980s. Solano now owns Black Sheep CC in Sugar Grove and a lot of the same types play there.

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I'll post one. I've been to an italian steakhouse in chicago and looks straight out the 40's. Cant assume but some of the guys in there fit the type. Another cool thing is that i saw parked Cadillacs in front of the no parking zone


WTF!?


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