Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Originally Posted By: Turnbull
Some families don't use any "making" ritual. Fat Vinny Teresa, in his book, "My Life in the Mafia," said that in the Raymond Patriarca family, "they just called you to the Office and told you you was made."


Not sure what to make of that. You'll recall that, in 1989, the FBI was successful in recording a making ceremony involving the Patriarca family.

As far as I'm aware, only the Chicago Outfit supposedly didn't use a traditional initiation ceremony but even that was in the earlier years. Decades later, they were also said to be going through the same ceremony with the drawn blood, burning saint card, etc.


Do you know where I can find this recording?


Makes you think. Makes you think about the people in your life. And when I think, I think of Neil. If he were here now what would he say? He would say "John what's it about? What's life about... if you dont go through it as a man's man?". He'd say "Suck it up, take the fall do the time. That made you what you are. That makes you what you are. How long have we been around this thing of ours? This Cosa Nostra? 120 years. What's it about? It's about the rules, perimeters. You take the beating for a friend, you don't run, you don't lay down, you don't betray who you are. What you are.