The vast majority of us here firmly agree that when it's a question of who has the most power and influence in New York,other than the actual bosses, the 116th crew is the logical answer. But outside the five families who would you say is the most powerful mobster in they'r given city/area? Was thinking this would make for a good discussion, as everybody is entitled to theyr own opinion...

Thanks

That one is easy to figure out.

I'll go out on a limb and say Anthony"Tony the Genius"Megale has been the most significant made guy to come out of Connecticut in a recent years

John DiFronzo, maybe not what they were years ago but the boss of the outfit still has some clout..

Good topic, nice switch up from "which mobster had the best muscles/hair" etc. thats been goin around lately........as for who is the most powerful, besides 5 family operatives in the tri-state, i'd probably agree with Difronzo. But i've also heard reports that he is basically retired/legit so who knows...interested to see what everyone else thinks/

DiFronzo would certainly be the wealthiest mobster far and away...followed by his brother Pete. In terms of clout I would also probably say DiFronzo. He's still the boss but leans on his brothers and Marco D'Amico to pass his orders along.

Are you sure FiveFelonies doesn't make this list? Toughest computer typer I know!

John Difronzo. Worth around 30 million. No one outside of New York is close to that

I would say more...his crew (and he personally) own property up and down Grand Avenue. DiFronzo has interests in car dealerships everywhere...from Parillo to Al Piemonte. He owns bars, taverns, grocers and pieces of probably every video gaming company under the Outfit's unmbrella...not to mention the large construction firms that Pete owns.

He's also been boss of the entire organization for well over a decade. That's a lot of money funelling up.

Where are the East Coast fanboys here to tell us we are wrong ? A few guys like Dom Cirillo, Migliore, Malangone, etc. are certainly wealthy...but not on DiFronzo's level.

no "fanboys" are going to disagree with that statement fratto, because its common knowledge that he is well off. it still, however, doesn't change the fact that the outfit is nowhere near what it used to be, despite a few articles written by subpar authors with obvious agenda's who are seemingly stuck in the 70's. there is little ability to reason with delusional people, so its best not to even try and just let time and the facts do the work for you!

Megale spent a ton of time in the Bronx, Tony. He came out of the Stamford area and that's where he'll return when he comes home next year. But he was getting close to the Bronx faction even when he was coming up under Breezy and Frank. And for the record, Megale is the ONLY guy to be made in the Connecticut faction of the Gambinos in recent years. Tony was the last Gambino in that state to get his button, and that was back in '88 or '89.

Even the DePreta kid that just got pinched last summer, who the Feds described as "Connecticut's highest ranking Gambino," is still an associate. I just think the Gambinos are leery of making any of the Fairfied guys because of all the trouble up there back in the '80s and '90s.

Other than Megale, it was a giant clusterfuck. Frank and Breezy both ended up getting whacked. Davy Crockett went into the program. Nick Melia (a standup guy if ever there was one) could never decide where he really fit (the Connecticut Gambinos or the Calabrians that his brother ran up in Canada and in New England). Then there was Taylor (a non-Italian associate), who ran one of the biggest sportsbooks in the entire country. When he got tired of going to jail he pretty much quit the business, and he was a CASH COW. Just too much aggravation.

If they're going to make a Gambino in Connecticut anytime soon it will be Dean DePreta, but I wouldn't hold my breath. And he's looking at a pretty long stretch in prison anyway (if convicted).

Ahhh i heard of TB.... Whos he with pb?

Fratto is in jail with limited internet access. You don't sound as tough anymore, what happened to the tough street talk? Are you from Utah too?

Where do you get the credibility to call someone a "subpar" author there Professor? lol of course the Outfit is nowhere near what it used to be...nor is any crime family in the country. Not sure who you think disagrees with that statement.

He was with Tony Megale, and he was pretty tight with Gerry the Head, Johnny Rosa, Stoogie. Those old time Stamford guys who hung around the golf course and the boatyard. He was also close to the Riccitellis up in Bridgeport and New Haven. He had friends all over, though. He was actually pretty friendly with Vinny Basciano, which is kinda bizarre because two more different people in this world do not exist.

I know you're a student of the sportsbook, Skin. So believe me when I tell you, those guys made MILLIONS with Taylor. But he pretty much gave things up after his last stretch. Last I heard he had a half sheet, which would be like Obama going back to being a community organizer. But Taylor was a MUCH better bookmaker than Obama is a President .

my friend Mike Pepe was the only one to plead guilty in that case, he got a year and a 100k fine i believe...the rest are going to trial

no one was made in the whole bust thought they talked it up a gambino thing which it was but they never said who the soldier was in ny that got the kick backs

also from what i hear the hells angels were the muscle when it came time to collect

what i heard not saying its true

Megale got in trouble for messing with Harry...Harry wound up snitching...been to harry o's and beamers many times as i worked in downtown stamford in 06-09...

harry o's is a whore house and beamers is legit

everyone knows harry o's is a whore house with poker machines but they let it be

why?

Excuse me. Just saw three more plead guilty on Daps site

Where it took place in Hamden is where I live. Card game got shut down within a month. They thought it was the 70s and quickly found out it is not

He said most powerful. Not the richest.

The guy with the most power right now you probably never heard of unless you are in the know

Don't kid yourself (not just you Nicky). But google and the Feds don't always have it right. Plenty of people under the radar. Not just the guys you see in the paper.

Because a guy hasn't been busted doesn't mean he's not active. Guys went underground. It's not like you see in the movies. Cadillacs aren't parked in front of social clubs all day playing pinochle. They own insurance companies, broker firms...they hang out in expensive restaurant bars, country clubs, etc.. Those days of hanging where anyone can see you are over. You got guys making millions on gambling not even having to answer the phones. No wire rooms. Just login and look at the balance. Pay $20 a head and someone in Costa Rica does it all for you. It's a new world

Harry is a fuckin bum, kid. He owed both of those places to a tough old Irishman named Billy Smith. Billy was completely independent, yet his shy book rivaled anyone's in Stamford's. He made an absolute fortune in air conditioning and refrigeration, then put the money on the street---lol.

Billy's dead going on twenty years now, so he's well before your time. Anyway, he looked out for Harry Farrington like a son because Harry was close to the biker crowd in Fairfield and they helped him collect his shy back then. But in the end, Harry fucked him too. I said that guy was a piece of shit twenty years ago (to his face as well as behind his back, in case anyone is interested), and I was right.

And for the record, for such a big guy Harry couldn't even fight a little bit. He was only tough when his biker buddies were around. I saw him get knocked cold at Pellicci's one night by a guy half his size. He tried to beef about it until he found out that he couldn't do anything about it .


Because Harry was a fucking snitch the whole time, long before Tony Megale came home from jail (and tried to help the ungrateful cocksucker).

I knew he was a rat twenty years ago, and I'm not just saying that. You guys all know me here. I rarely get excited. But that guy is just no fucking good.

I heard similar things PB. He still profits those places I hear. Not saying its true just what I hear. Guys a scumbag

And that's why they still let it go on. Stamford is a corrupt city.

Oh yeah. I'll pm you tomorrow because I have a few things to do right now. But if you want I'll tell you a few good stories about that town .

There's MANY guys in Chicago with lots of power under the radar that you won't find online and on charts . I've said many times you can't find everything online. With DiFronzo you gotta remember really how much he owns. That on top of the money from illegal activities. That's a ton of money. And with money comes power. He may not be as active but he's on top.

how many bosses/captains have to flip before new yorks starts to look different in your eyes?

Agree Nicky.

20 a head!?!? Hit me up ill get ya 12!

How many times do we have to tell you you're a moron before you shut up with this "New York rat" crap you spew all the time?

If the answer to the original question is a Chicago guy, and it very well could be, it would probably be whoever took over as acting boss after Sarno was indicted. In other words, whoever is running the Outfit at the moment. And, if recent history is any guide, it very well may not be DiFronzo but somebody else in the Cicero/Melrose Park crew like Marcello and Sarno were.

Marco D'Amico?

i ain't making this shit up outta thin air

they're telling on each other on the east coast and that ain't because they're so strong

When you look at the size of the NY families (compared to the relatively low percentage of members and associates that flip), as well as their activity, you don't make the mistake of viewing things solely through the lens of rats like you want to. There's a lot of rats in NY, more than anywhere else, because that's where most of the members and activity is. There's not exactly a lot of rats in Tampa, St. Louis, or San Jose at the moment, if you get what I'm saying.