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Re: All Things Philly [Re: JacklynnPetropoulos] #701146
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I added some more murders...and I have a few more to add but I want to confirm the dates (I also hate when dates are wrong).


"Goodfellas don't sue goodfellas. . . . Goodfellas kill goodfellas." ~ Salvatore Profaci in bugged NJ mob lawyer Sal Avena's office

“This was the Volkswagen of racketeering charges” ~ Def. Attorney Ed Jacobs, Jr.

"Meanwhile, I got the uncle who wants me out of the way.... Great family, aren't they? This is what it's all about." ~Louis "Bent-Finger Louie" Monacello

"It was a wholesale annihilation.... How many times do they want to be beat? Because I'm frankly getting tired of it. They went fishing for Joe Ligambi, and the jury gave them Gary Battaglini.” ~ Def Atty Christopher Warren
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Turned Rat (I have alot more to add once I find the dates)

July 9, 1974 - Frederick Angelucci
July 22, 1974 - Robert Cicalese
November 11, 1986-Andrew “Tommy Del” DelGiorno
November 14, 1986 – Nicholas "Nicky Crow" Caramandi
March 15, 1989 – Eugene “Gino” Milano
May 8, 1989-Lawrence “Yogi” Merlino
September 11, 1999 – Ralph Natale
March 24, 2000 - Gaetano “Tommy Horsehead” Scafidi


"Goodfellas don't sue goodfellas. . . . Goodfellas kill goodfellas." ~ Salvatore Profaci in bugged NJ mob lawyer Sal Avena's office

“This was the Volkswagen of racketeering charges” ~ Def. Attorney Ed Jacobs, Jr.

"Meanwhile, I got the uncle who wants me out of the way.... Great family, aren't they? This is what it's all about." ~Louis "Bent-Finger Louie" Monacello

"It was a wholesale annihilation.... How many times do they want to be beat? Because I'm frankly getting tired of it. They went fishing for Joe Ligambi, and the jury gave them Gary Battaglini.” ~ Def Atty Christopher Warren
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Made members who have flipped:


1. Biagio Adornetto/Soldier (1993)
2. Sergio Battaglia/Soldier (1996)
3. Rosario Bellochi/Soldier (1995)
4. Peter "The Crumb" Caprio/Capo (2000)
5. Nicholas "Nicky the Crow" Caramandi/Soldier (1986)
6. Thomas "Tommy Del" DelGiorno/Capo (1986)
7. George Freselone/Capo (Dead) (1990)
8. Salvatore "Wayne" Grande/Soldier (1993)
9. Philip "Crazy Phil" Leonetti/UnderBoss (1989)
10. Robert "Bobby" Luisi Jr/Capo (2000)
11. Lawrence "Larry/Yogi" Merlino/Capo/Soldier (1989)
12. Eugene "Gino" Milano/Soldier (1988)
13. Ralph Natale/Boss (1999)
14. Ronald "Big Ron" Previte/Capo (1999)
15. Gaeton "Tommy Horsehead" Scafidi/Soldier (2000)
16. Rocco Scafidi/Soldier (informant since 1960's)
17. John Veasey/Soldier (1994)

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Re: All Things Philly [Re: JacklynnPetropoulos] #701156
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Originally Posted By: JacklynnPetropoulos

Im not really impressed. Its really easy to say all he says after serving 5 years, 5 months, and 5 days...despite admitting over 20 murders. That disgusts me as a citizen, as a lawyer, as a human being. Not only that, but he is profiting off it all. Again, Im just as guilty because I purchased the book (well I didnt, but guilted a friend into buying it for me. lol).

I dont like him. And maybe that biases me toward the book. Not to mention that I wasnt 8 pages in and I find a typo, and then a second one on pg 17. (sorry Im an editor, and I sleep with red pens near me).


I noticed typo's throughout the book, more of those to come.

Well sure Leonetti is a lowlife, but 99% of the guys in that life are too. What were you expecting? All these guys are nothing but a bunch of parasites who could give 2 shits about anyone. They lie, cheat, steal and murder to get what they want. Leonetti is just one of many. The only reason he most likely even wrote the book was for the money and hope of one day selling the story to some hollywood studio. He freely admits he sleeps like a baby these days and really has little remorse for what he's done.

He puts it all on his Uncle Nicky. lol

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There were quite a few typos in that book and the author is over on the RD, Scott, and he said he was pissed about those as well. These days they cut costs where they can. I am glad Phil finally put a book out. He was next to Scarfo SR his whole life and during that whole rise and fall. I really enjoyed the book but hes starting to piss me off a little in some of his recent interviews with his I only killed bad people routine.

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Where can I find more information on Rocco Scafidi being an informant from the 60s?

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Originally Posted By: spmob
There were quite a few typos in that book and the author is over on the RD, Scott, and he said he was pissed about those as well. These days they cut costs where they can. I am glad Phil finally put a book out. He was next to Scarfo SR his whole life and during that whole rise and fall. I really enjoyed the book but hes starting to piss me off a little in some of his recent interviews with his I only killed bad people routine.


And he was all into the killings and life until he started to get a lil jammed up and it was getting to be serious stuff and then his uncle turned in his eyes into the devil.....good read but guy is a lowlife scum....

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Leonetti is a sociopath and he has been rationalising his involvement in all those homicides with that line "we only killed bad people" pretty much from day 1 after he flipped. I haven't watched it in awhile but i think i remember him saying it in the Underboss documentary he did and pretty much all the interviews he's done over the years.


On a side note i thought it was pretty crazy when Scarfo snapped at Phil while they were locked up in the holding pen and Nicky said he blamed Leonetti and his mother (Scarfo's sister) for driving his son Mark Scarfo to his suicide attempt.

"The way she would scream and holler at him and that vein would come out of her throat. This is your fault. You and that witch sister of mine, your just like her"

What a totally dysfunctional family the Leonetti/Scarfo's were. No wonder Leonetti's father took off and never came back.

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What a great, great thread. You have all done a super job with outstanding follow-through. I'm just getting into Philly while reading The Goodfella Tapes. I needn't go much further than here as a jump off reference point. Again, drinks all around and keep up the good work.


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Originally Posted By: Viceguy
What a great, great thread. You have all done a super job with outstanding follow-through. I'm just getting into Philly while reading The Goodfella Tapes. I needn't go much further than here as a jump off reference point. Again, drinks all around and keep up the good work.


Thank you for your compliments. I plan on taking over George Anastasia's chair one day, he just doesnt know yet. lol. I have a 12-page timeline of the family that I will post soon.


"Goodfellas don't sue goodfellas. . . . Goodfellas kill goodfellas." ~ Salvatore Profaci in bugged NJ mob lawyer Sal Avena's office

“This was the Volkswagen of racketeering charges” ~ Def. Attorney Ed Jacobs, Jr.

"Meanwhile, I got the uncle who wants me out of the way.... Great family, aren't they? This is what it's all about." ~Louis "Bent-Finger Louie" Monacello

"It was a wholesale annihilation.... How many times do they want to be beat? Because I'm frankly getting tired of it. They went fishing for Joe Ligambi, and the jury gave them Gary Battaglini.” ~ Def Atty Christopher Warren
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Originally Posted By: Giancarlo
Leonetti is a sociopath and he has been rationalising his involvement in all those homicides with that line "we only killed bad people" pretty much from day 1 after he flipped. I haven't watched it in awhile but i think i remember him saying it in the Underboss documentary he did and pretty much all the interviews he's done over the years.


On a side note i thought it was pretty crazy when Scarfo snapped at Phil while they were locked up in the holding pen and Nicky said he blamed Leonetti and his mother (Scarfo's sister) for driving his son Mark Scarfo to his suicide attempt.

"The way she would scream and holler at him and that vein would come out of her throat. This is your fault. You and that witch sister of mine, your just like her"

What a totally dysfunctional family the Leonetti/Scarfo's were. No wonder Leonetti's father took off and never came back.


My heart aches for Mark Scarfo. I only learned about him this past year, and the story definitely took a little bit of my romance with mob away. Not to mention Mark was absolutely beautiful. But, with Leonetti using that as his "tipping point", I question the sincerity.

While I only have a bachelor's in psychology, I have studied psychopathy for past 14 years, and you cant "flip" on your genetics. One need only read Leonetti's 'acknowledgment' paragraph to grasp who he is.


"Goodfellas don't sue goodfellas. . . . Goodfellas kill goodfellas." ~ Salvatore Profaci in bugged NJ mob lawyer Sal Avena's office

“This was the Volkswagen of racketeering charges” ~ Def. Attorney Ed Jacobs, Jr.

"Meanwhile, I got the uncle who wants me out of the way.... Great family, aren't they? This is what it's all about." ~Louis "Bent-Finger Louie" Monacello

"It was a wholesale annihilation.... How many times do they want to be beat? Because I'm frankly getting tired of it. They went fishing for Joe Ligambi, and the jury gave them Gary Battaglini.” ~ Def Atty Christopher Warren
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Beware! Philly Sharks sighting on far right.

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/196230931.html


"Goodfellas don't sue goodfellas. . . . Goodfellas kill goodfellas." ~ Salvatore Profaci in bugged NJ mob lawyer Sal Avena's office

“This was the Volkswagen of racketeering charges” ~ Def. Attorney Ed Jacobs, Jr.

"Meanwhile, I got the uncle who wants me out of the way.... Great family, aren't they? This is what it's all about." ~Louis "Bent-Finger Louie" Monacello

"It was a wholesale annihilation.... How many times do they want to be beat? Because I'm frankly getting tired of it. They went fishing for Joe Ligambi, and the jury gave them Gary Battaglini.” ~ Def Atty Christopher Warren
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Pic 1: Is this really Billy Veasey? Anyone know?

Pics 2 and 3: Gino Milano or Nick Milano?

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"Goodfellas don't sue goodfellas. . . . Goodfellas kill goodfellas." ~ Salvatore Profaci in bugged NJ mob lawyer Sal Avena's office

“This was the Volkswagen of racketeering charges” ~ Def. Attorney Ed Jacobs, Jr.

"Meanwhile, I got the uncle who wants me out of the way.... Great family, aren't they? This is what it's all about." ~Louis "Bent-Finger Louie" Monacello

"It was a wholesale annihilation.... How many times do they want to be beat? Because I'm frankly getting tired of it. They went fishing for Joe Ligambi, and the jury gave them Gary Battaglini.” ~ Def Atty Christopher Warren
Re: All Things Philly [Re: JacklynnPetropoulos] #701596
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The top pic is not Billy Veasey

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Billy Veasey was a young man when he was hit

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Originally Posted By: spmob
The top pic is not Billy Veasey


It's Dennis Virelli. Big meth guy who used to work with both the bikers and mob guys. He flipped in 2000 and testified against the philly crew.

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There are still Veaseys living in this area. John and Billy also had a younger brother who they called Peanut. He uses his mother's maiden name of Cuticchia instead of Veasey. His name is Dante and he has had his share of trouble in the past

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Yeah I have pics of JohnJohn Veasey. And just ordered Ralph Ciprano's book HitMan.


"Goodfellas don't sue goodfellas. . . . Goodfellas kill goodfellas." ~ Salvatore Profaci in bugged NJ mob lawyer Sal Avena's office

“This was the Volkswagen of racketeering charges” ~ Def. Attorney Ed Jacobs, Jr.

"Meanwhile, I got the uncle who wants me out of the way.... Great family, aren't they? This is what it's all about." ~Louis "Bent-Finger Louie" Monacello

"It was a wholesale annihilation.... How many times do they want to be beat? Because I'm frankly getting tired of it. They went fishing for Joe Ligambi, and the jury gave them Gary Battaglini.” ~ Def Atty Christopher Warren
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Originally Posted By: JacklynnPetropoulos
Yeah I have pics of JohnJohn Veasey. And just ordered Ralph Ciprano's book HitMan.


Here's one of the Veasey brothers from John Veasey's book.


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Wait, who is who in pic?


"Goodfellas don't sue goodfellas. . . . Goodfellas kill goodfellas." ~ Salvatore Profaci in bugged NJ mob lawyer Sal Avena's office

“This was the Volkswagen of racketeering charges” ~ Def. Attorney Ed Jacobs, Jr.

"Meanwhile, I got the uncle who wants me out of the way.... Great family, aren't they? This is what it's all about." ~Louis "Bent-Finger Louie" Monacello

"It was a wholesale annihilation.... How many times do they want to be beat? Because I'm frankly getting tired of it. They went fishing for Joe Ligambi, and the jury gave them Gary Battaglini.” ~ Def Atty Christopher Warren
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Any help ID'ing peeps in this pic? I know the first on the far left is John 'Johnny Chang' Ciancaglini...

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“This was the Volkswagen of racketeering charges” ~ Def. Attorney Ed Jacobs, Jr.

"Meanwhile, I got the uncle who wants me out of the way.... Great family, aren't they? This is what it's all about." ~Louis "Bent-Finger Louie" Monacello

"It was a wholesale annihilation.... How many times do they want to be beat? Because I'm frankly getting tired of it. They went fishing for Joe Ligambi, and the jury gave them Gary Battaglini.” ~ Def Atty Christopher Warren
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Originally Posted By: JacklynnPetropoulos
Wait, who is who in pic?

In the photo of the Veasy brothers i posted?

Billy on the left, John on the right.

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You are my NEW BEST FRIEND!


"Goodfellas don't sue goodfellas. . . . Goodfellas kill goodfellas." ~ Salvatore Profaci in bugged NJ mob lawyer Sal Avena's office

“This was the Volkswagen of racketeering charges” ~ Def. Attorney Ed Jacobs, Jr.

"Meanwhile, I got the uncle who wants me out of the way.... Great family, aren't they? This is what it's all about." ~Louis "Bent-Finger Louie" Monacello

"It was a wholesale annihilation.... How many times do they want to be beat? Because I'm frankly getting tired of it. They went fishing for Joe Ligambi, and the jury gave them Gary Battaglini.” ~ Def Atty Christopher Warren
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Made members who have flipped:


1. Biagio Adornetto/Soldier (1993)
2. Sergio Battaglia/Soldier (1996)
3. Rosario Bellochi/Soldier (1995)
4. Peter "The Crumb" Caprio/Capo (2000)
5. Nicholas "Nicky the Crow" Caramandi/Soldier (1986)
6. Thomas "Tommy Del" DelGiorno/Capo (1986)
7. George Freselone/Capo (Dead) (1990)
8. Salvatore "Wayne" Grande/Soldier (1993)
9. Philip "Crazy Phil" Leonetti/UnderBoss (1989)
10. Robert "Bobby" Luisi Jr/Capo (2000)
11. Lawrence "Larry/Yogi" Merlino/Capo/Soldier (1989)
12. Eugene "Gino" Milano/Soldier (1988)
13. Ralph Natale/Boss (1999)
14. Ronald "Big Ron" Previte/Capo (1999)
15. Gaeton "Tommy Horsehead" Scafidi/Soldier (2000)
16. Rocco Scafidi/Soldier (informant since 1960's)
17. John Veasey/Soldier (1994)


Previte was a Capo? I thought he was an associate. It says in his documentary on youtube that he wasn't given a ceremony.


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Originally Posted By: vinnietoothpicks26
Previte was a Capo? I thought he was an associate. It says in his documentary on youtube that he wasn't given a ceremony.


That's one of those things that has caused a lot of discussion. You're right, he never went through the ceremony. And yet, he was considered to be made by the family. Traditionalists will say that's impossible, he's got to go through the ceremony. Others will look to how he was viewed by the rest of the made guys in the family. I understand both points of view.


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didn't the story go something like stanfa just pointing at him and saying "you're made/with us"?


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Originally Posted By: Five_Felonies
didn't the story go something like stanfa just pointing at him and saying "you're made/with us"?


Yeah, that's basically what I remember reading.


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"Your with us" to me means "your an associate". I dont think that qualifies as being a made guy.


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Originally Posted By: vinnietoothpicks26
"Your with us" to me means "your an associate". I dont think that qualifies as being a made guy.


Regardless of the exact words Stanfa said, it's known that he was viewed as a made guy. But, again, I realize that it can be argued that doesn't cut it.


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Yeah I have pics of JohnJohn Veasey.


John Veseay-YouTube

My new mob poster boy. Fascinates the hell outta me on many levels. A tough guy's tough guy. You can debate his mentality, morality, loyalty, etc., till the cows return, but he belongs in a ninch all to himself.

The most remarkable thing, in my view, is his overcoming a dope habit before being made. That constitutes a tough guy in my book. After having struggled with a similar jones for well over 30 years myself, just hearing that JV beat his own chemical demon, blows me away.

What was his drug of choice (before replacing it with killing people)...anyone know...?


N..... or no, bastard had balls, shame to kill him...
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