Seems the term "making guys", "made", and "member" is causing quite a stir in this thread...lol.

My thoughts are if there's money to be made, some guys will choose to try and make it, others won't. One thing I can say with good certainty is that none are in it for the glory, as those days are gone. Do you know what I mean by that? The old timers are like grandfathers. They'll babysit their grandchildren from time to time, bit none are interested in raising them.