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Re: Gravano - the real face of LCN?
[Re: Joe_Bonanno]
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02/28/13 08:08 PM
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Gravano killed way more than 19 people. He admitted to 19 but there is good reason to believe the number is a great deal higher than that. Casso was mostly right about Gravano's life despite all his other lies. Sammy was mostly whacking business partners left and right, including standup guys lke DB.
Hes completely full of shit for the reasons that he flipped, and if you need more evidence of it look at this life post La Cosa Nostra. His great redemption from his LCN life was selling X to children. D
Last edited by LittleNicky; 02/28/13 08:12 PM.
Should probably ask Mr. Kierney. I guess if you're Italian, you should be in prison. I've read the RICO Act, and I can tell you it's more appropriate... for some of those guys over in Washington than it is for me or any of my fellas here
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Re: Gravano - the real face of LCN?
[Re: tommykarate]
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03/01/13 03:07 AM
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Sammy didn't kill johns neighbor.it was willow boy or charlie canig I think.it says charlie got rid of favaras body in the book about him John & Charley Canig, Willie Boy, Gene, & Quack. Gotti was in Fla. Poor Favara.
*** il capo di tutti capi ***
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Re: Gravano - the real face of LCN?
[Re: streetbossliborio]
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03/25/13 07:26 AM
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Not meant in any way, shape or form as a refutation of any condemnation of Bull but...in the thousands of hours of fed tapes contemporaneous with the bug at the Ravinite, not once did Bull incriminate himself or say one negative word about John. Struck me as interesting.
source: Bull's ABC (?) interview with Diane Sawyer.
Last edited by Viceguy; 03/25/13 07:28 AM.
N..... or no, bastard had balls, shame to kill him... I got nuthin', I got nuthin...
Coming to bb is like going to the dollar store. You came for one thing, but once in now youse cant leave.
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Re: Gravano - the real face of LCN?
[Re: Joe_Bonanno]
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03/25/13 11:16 PM
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In my opinion Gravano was the smarter one in terms of maintaning a low profile and being "true LCN". Had he been boss, I'm quite sure the Gambino Family would'tve taken such a hit as they did in the early nineties.
That being said, I personally don't like Sammy. He's complete murderous scum, lower than the dirt himself. He's a shitsack through and through and not just because he's a rat, but he murdered god knows how many people, got his family involved in a drug ring in Arizona, along with psychopathic nature.
Gotti was an arrogant, loudmouth blowhard. But one thing you always have to give him is that he walked the talk. After watching the 60 minutes interview on Gravano, he became one of the few mobsters I genuinely did not like or root for (the latter being a habit I try to curb)
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Re: Gravano - the real face of LCN?
[Re: 123JoeSchmo]
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03/26/13 11:02 AM
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In my opinion Gravano was the smarter one in terms of maintaning a low profile and being "true LCN". Had he been boss, I'm quite sure the Gambino Family would'tve taken such a hit as they did in the early nineties.
That being said, I personally don't like Sammy. He's complete murderous scum, lower than the dirt himself. He's a shitsack through and through and not just because he's a rat, but he murdered god knows how many people, got his family involved in a drug ring in Arizona, along with psychopathic nature.
Gotti was an arrogant, loudmouth blowhard. But one thing you always have to give him is that he walked the talk. After watching the 60 minutes interview on Gravano, he became one of the few mobsters I genuinely did not like or root for (the latter being a habit I try to curb) Definitely agree that Gravano was more "true LCN" but not sure he would have ever been this great boss that would have changed the fortunes of the Gambinos. Although I will never argue Gotti was a great Boss, it does seem like he had the Gambino family at the top. He was 100% dedicated to his crime Family. The constant talking and flashiness definitely wasn't an ideal way to run a Family, but he definitely did "walk the talk" Without Sammy ratting Gotti would have still gone away, but the rest of the Family would have still been ok. If only Frank DeCeccio would have just taken the reigns the Gambino Family may still be the head of the class, but what would we all do without Gotti conversation?
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Re: Gravano - the real face of LCN?
[Re: Joe_Bonanno]
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03/26/13 09:40 PM
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Here's, what I think. Probably you've read his book and watched his interview, he was always for the old ways of making business. He was strong, ruthless, killer, major money maker, not in the spotlights, careful and so on... till John Gotti comes as a boss. For me John Gotti being the boss, was the beginning of the end of the Gambino family then. If Gravano and Frank DeCicco had been in charge, none of this would happen. John Gotti talked about "public".... Here is what I think. I agree with most of your points. I think he could have been one of the best and highly respected for the ages but he became his worst enemy. I feel its usually a women, drugs or greed that throw smart powerfull positioned men off their foundation. With Sammy I think it was just his mind, he could not satisfy his need for controling every detail of everything around him. What you call micro management. He had managers for that, he should have left them to their tasks. The best is knowing he has to deal with and suffer watching his discusting daughter hang out all her dirty laundry on the horrible fakeality show. Maybe its better off he is not dead so he does not have to roll over again. DP
Be Loyal, Be Loving, Be Quiet.
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