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Re: Mobsters in prison
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02/23/13 03:12 PM
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Never paid protection? Ever know anyone who's done time? Not just worked there? I'm talking been an inmate? Because I know a few thousand and they all have stated that's how it works. Currency in jail comes in many forms, money, drugs, phones etc! Spot-on. No offense, Jace. But prison guards aren't generally the sharpest knives in the drawer. No offense to your family. I'm sure they're all bright enough. I'm just speaking in general terms. I never met a hack who wasn't an imbecile or a steroid head. Or both. No offense ? You straight out imply my family who work as prison guards are imbeciles, and steroid users, but preface it with "No offense?" I offered some insight, and don't mind someone disagreeing with it. You went too far.
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Re: Mobsters in prison
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I have family members who work in prisons, including my brother. My uncle was corrections officer from 1963 till 1991. My brother is one now, in New York state. Mafia members in prisons have been discussed among us a few times. From what I have concluded listening to their stories, older mobsters doing time in 1960's and 1970's would take leadership roles among white inmates, not due to mob stature, but due to some being very rough men. They would not have absolute power, there is no one Mr. Big in any prison. They would share power, and as they all do today in prison, keep to self for most of the time. They are actually most quiet group, and cause least problems for officers.
Newer Mafia members in prison tend to fit description of suburbanites, and are not as tough as older ones were. They still are able to fight, and have respect. In prisons. No inmates, regardless of where they are from, or what their race or background is, really cares that a guy is from Mafia. How they carry selves is what counts. Today, as in past, they hang out with other white inmates, but will mix just a bit more than in past. They never pay protection. No inmates really do, because of fact that there is no one group able to control all other groups. Protection money would be wasted money. Others would just try to get some off them too.
The story of Gotti paying protection is not believed by anyone I spoke with. Consensus was that he could have done what is common for inmates to do if they have more money than others; they help out others who are around them. In regards to Gotti during his time spent in prison during 1970's for McBratney murder, no one we know remembers him. That would mean he just stayed out of trouble, and kept to self and with some friends. He did not run things, as some admirers of him might claim. Never paid protection? Ever know anyone who's done time? Not just worked there? I'm talking been an inmate? Because I know a few thousand and they all have stated that's how it works. Currency in jail comes in many forms, money, drugs, phones etc! Currency in jail/prison comes in many forms. Stamps,food,commissarry items, but also if someone's in debt,they can have theyr people on the street send a money order to the person they owe. or also i remember being able to fill out a slip to transfer money strait from my own personal account Amen! Spoken from someone who ACTUALLY KNOWS! No third hand, National Geographic BS! Thanks SouthEnd! What do you mean by "National Geographic BS?"
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Re: Mobsters in prison
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while its always unfair to generalize a group of people, prison guards, especially in the past, don't have the best reputation as far as honesty goes. this has definatly changed in recent years, but that field is still prone to tons more corruption than most other professions. the combination of low pay, and a very dangerous and stressful job can lead many to go astray. add to that the fact that some end up as disgruntled CO's because they weren't able to become police officers for whatever reason, and you can have the perfect storm for dishonesty.
my brothers friend worked as one for a short time at NJSP, a horrible place where the "iceman" did the majority of his time, and some of the stuff that he told me that went on was sickening. bottom line, while its unfair to label all prison guards as corrupt and mentally unstable, i think that you would be hard pressed to find even 1 moderately sized jail/prison in this entire country without some kind of fuckery going on related to the staff!
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Re: Mobsters in prison
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02/23/13 04:39 PM
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Spent 7 years in federal prison, 5 in Marion and 2 in Leavenworth. In reality it breaks down to group size. Marion did not have a large LCN population, so the mob guys I met were pretty low key, didnt look for trouble and were pretty much left alone. At leavenworth there was a larger LCN population with several lifers, they were much more involved in prison politics. I do know that protection is paid, when I first went it, it was cigerettes, then they made it smoke free and it then became stamps and commisary primarily. I know there were at least two guys in leavenworth that I knew who gave some AB guys 150.00 in commisary a month for protection. No one messed with the LCN guys as far as I saw. Did they mess with you ?
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Re: Mobsters in prison
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02/23/13 11:42 PM
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I read somewhere that an entire wing in Norfolk Prison in Massachusetts was dedicated to LCN and those guys lived good.
One guy even had his dog in there with him. I wish I could remember where I read it... I was referring to this article Flacco
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Re: Mobsters in prison
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02/25/13 12:30 PM
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I read somewhere that an entire wing in Norfolk Prison in Massachusetts was dedicated to LCN and those guys lived good.
One guy even had his dog in there with him. I wish I could remember where I read it... It's not exactly true. There's a unit in Norfolk i forget which exact block but its where guys like Freddy Simone,Ricky Costa,Anthony Clemente,Billy Angelesco and guys like that did theyr bids a little more comfortable than the rest of the inmates at Norfolk,which is a nice stop to begin with compared to other MA. prisons. South, no dogs?
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