Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
But one thing is for sure, neither family had anywhere close to 500 made members in the 1980's; if ever.


I'm even skeptical they ever had as many as 400. I think that at their height both families probably had closer to 300 made members. In the 1970s there were mass ceremonies to fill up the ranks of members that had died since 1957. So it is reasonable to assume that the numbers in the 1970s would be comparable to the numbers in the 1950s.


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