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Families power in certain areas #697887
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Name the families in order who have the most power/influence in a certain area.
1. Brooklyn
2. The Bronx
3. Queens
4. Manhattan
5. Staten Island
6. Long Island
7. North Jersey
8. South Jersey/Atlantic City
9. Connecticut
10. Massachusetts

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The Genovese are the only family active in every single one of those places to some degree and are certainly the most powerful overall, I can't speak for therest but for The Bronx it goes Genovese,Luchese,Gambino,Bonnano, with the latter having largely diminished, I'd also like to add that the peckin order is likely the same in the northern suburbs like Westchester but without the Bonnanos altogether

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1. Gambino...powerbase of fam. is currently Brooklyn.
2. Bronx - Luchese...toss up here between Luchese and Genovese. Bonnano crew all but gone. I'd listen to any arguments.
3. Queens - Genovese...Romanello and Tough Tony have had a strangle hold on the Corona area for some time. 10 years ago I woulda said Bonnano.
4. Manhattan - Genovese. Still some rackets in the Village and West Side, plus whatever's left on upper east side/harlem (which isn't much).
5.Staten Island - Bonnano...Last acting commission was SI based. Gerry Chili too. Vinny TV, TG...all homes on SI. Lots of sports books and vig with their name on it.
6. Long Island - Colombo...Tough to say for LI, but Tommy Shot's crew was a Long Island crime wave. Joe Waverly had business here too. Farmingdale/North Massapequa area...all Colombo. Although the most recent garbage guy to go down on LI was a Gambino made guy...young, too.
7. North JerseyGenovese...no question here.
8. AC - ??? Have no basis to venture a guess.
9. Conn..Gambino - Zeke.
10. Genovese...Springfield Crew.

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Originally Posted By: TonyBoy117
The Genovese are the only family active in every single one of those places to some degree and are certainly the most powerful overall, I can't speak for therest but for The Bronx it goes Genovese,Luchese,Gambino,Bonnano, with the latter having largely diminished, I'd also like to add that the peckin order is likely the same in the northern suburbs like Westchester but without the Bonnanos altogether


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Patriarcas probably have more power in Massachusetts than the Genovese. Philly and the Decalvacantes probably have the most in south Jersey

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Ok i regress. 1-9 Westside. 10 is a toss up.

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Originally Posted By: SharpieOne
1. Gambino...powerbase of fam. is currently Brooklyn.
2. Bronx - Luchese...toss up here between Luchese and Genovese. Bonnano crew all but gone. I'd listen to any arguments.
3. Queens - Genovese...Romanello and Tough Tony have had a strangle hold on the Corona area for some time. 10 years ago I woulda said Bonnano.
4. Manhattan - Genovese. Still some rackets in the Village and West Side, plus whatever's left on upper east side/harlem (which isn't much).
5.Staten Island - Bonnano...Last acting commission was SI based. Gerry Chili too. Vinny TV, TG...all homes on SI. Lots of sports books and vig with their name on it.
6. Long Island - Colombo...Tough to say for LI, but Tommy Shot's crew was a Long Island crime wave. Joe Waverly had business here too. Farmingdale/North Massapequa area...all Colombo. Although the most recent garbage guy to go down on LI was a Gambino made guy...young, too.
7. North JerseyGenovese...no question here.
8. AC - ??? Have no basis to venture a guess.
9. Conn..Gambino - Zeke.
10. Genovese...Springfield Crew.


Genovese Queens? Thats one of the ones id argue against westside being dominant. Gambinos got 3 crwws in HB alone! Long Island Colombo? You ever been to long island? Just bc most colombo/bonanno guys live there doesnt mean shit. SI either. Westside and Gambinos share BK, QNs, SI, & LI. Westside runs the rest. Tony megale and Funzi be damned.

Westside guys and philly guys are in AC. Never heard of Decav guys....

Re: Families power in certain areas [Re: NickyEyes1] #697925
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Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
Patriarcas probably have more power in Massachusetts than the Genovese.
That's true to an extent. The Patriarca family is the New England family based in both Providence and Boston, but generally its a smaller family so they usually work with one of the New York families. When Patriarca sr was boss, he had strong ties to both the Genovese and Colombo families. The ties with the Genovese family is how they worked out that the Connecticut river would separate the New York families and the Patriarca family. They also decided that the Genoveses would control Hartford, Springfield and Albany while Patriarca controlled Boston, Worcester and all of Maine. The most recent "boss" for the New England family was shaking down strip clubs in Rhode Island with members of the Gambino family back in 2010, so its kind of a mutual thing.


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So the boss of New England is doing shake downs? Do the Patriarcas control anything today other than Boston and Providence?

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Now adays? probably not, maybe some stuff in maine, new hampshire, parts of mass and rhode island, but probably not much more than that.


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I assume they still got north end right scarface? I went there recently, place is still full of Italians


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I would think so, I know they had a presence there still as of a couple years ago with both of the DiNunzio brothers being based out of the north end.


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Both their fat asses got locked up. Both are big mouths. As far as leadership goes they have none. I'm still not sure where Peter Limone factors in all of this


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Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
Name the families in order who have the most power/influence in a certain area.


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1. Brooklyn

#1 Gambino
#2-5 Toss up between other families

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2. The Bronx


#1 Genovese
#2 Lucchese
#3 Gambino
#4 Bonanno
#5 Colombo

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3. Queens


#1 Gambino
#2 Bonanno
#3-5 Toss up between other NY families

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4. Manhattan


#1 Genovese
#2 Gambino
#3/4 Toss up between Lucchese and Bonanno
#5 Colombo

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5. Staten Island


#1 Gambino
#2 Bonanno
#3 Colombo
#4 Lucchese
#5 Genovese

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6. Long Island


#1/2 Toss up between Luccheses and Colombos
#3/4 Toss up between Gambinos and Bonannos
#5 Genovese

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7. North Jersey


#1 Genovese
#2 Lucchese
#3-5 Toss up between DeCavalcante, Gambino, Bonanno
#6/7 Toss up between Colombo and Philadelphia

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8. South Jersey/Atlantic City


#1 Philadelphia
#2 Genovese
#3 Gambino
#4-6 Other NY families

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9. Connecticut


#1 Gambino
#2 Genovese
#3 Patriarca

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10. Massachusetts


#1 Patriarca
#2 Genovese

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Originally Posted By: 123JoeSchmo
Both their fat asses got locked up. Both are big mouths. As far as leadership goes they have none. I'm still not sure where Peter Limone factors in all of this
Last I've heard, he's still boss, though he's getting up there in age. I suspect power will end up shifting back to Providence in the next few years if it hasn't already.


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Thanks ivy and sharpie. Ivy how does philly rank with other families in north jersey since they have a crew there?

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Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
Thanks ivy and sharpie. Ivy how does philly rank with other families in north jersey since they have a crew there?


I guess I should have put them. They would be last out of all of them. It's a very small crew with only a handful of made guys.


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Why do the Colombos have no presence in the Bronx? You'd think they'd take advantage of any area they can get. Is everything already involved with other families?

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According to ivy's list they have a presence in the Bronx.


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Id imagine its pretty fuckin crowded....its not as if u can go into a nabe u dont know anyone and say "Hey guess what im putting money on the street!" Or "Im with the Colombos pay me protection!"

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Originally Posted By: Skinny
Id imagine its pretty fuckin crowded....its not as if u can go into a nabe u dont know anyone and say "Hey guess what im putting money on the street!" Or "Im with the Colombos pay me protection!"
Not to mention they may have agreements with the other families "we won't control much in this area but in return we control this area" and such.


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does anyone (cough,ivyleague) have any specific info on any columbo operations in nj? they without a doubt have at least some small operations going on, but i never hear much in regards to any active crews. thanks.


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Colombos have no presence in the Bronx whatsoever and historically never did, your guess to why is as good as mine

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Originally Posted By: scarfacetm
According to ivy's list they have a presence in the Bronx.

No, they might have a couple guys here but it's not enough to be considered a presence. Even back when the mob was strong here, the Colombos didn't have a single social club in the entire borough. And that's a fact.

But I do agree that a couple of individuals have had partnerships with some guys from the other families here. For instance, Richie Fusco was pretty tight with Greg DePalma. They were partnered at the old Westchester Premier Theatre, and much later they had a joint together over on Boston Road, near the Pelham line.


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I know pretty much everyone family is in Brooklyn. I think the gambinos have the most people. But the Colombos, bonannos and even the luccheses have people there. The west side I think has a few crews as well


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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy

But I do agree that a couple of individuals have had partnerships with some guys from the other families here. For instance, Richie Fusco was pretty tight with Greg DePalma. They were partnered at the old Westchester Premier Theatre, and much later they had a joint together over on Boston Road, near the Pelham line.
I'm sure that's how it is all over NY, you have some businesses or whatever under control of just one family, then you have some that families have arrangements with eachother on. Makes more sense to work together to make more money than it does fighting with each other on businesses. Kind of gives them that "I do this for you, you owe me this down the road" leverage.


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For instance, Richie Fusco was pretty tight with Greg DePalma. They were partnered at the old Westchester Premier Theatre, and much later they had a joint together over on Boston Road, near the Pelham line.



Was that the Crazy Horse?


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For instance, Richie Fusco was pretty tight with Greg DePalma. They were partnered at the old Westchester Premier Theatre, and much later they had a joint together over on Boston Road, near the Pelham line.

Was that the Crazy Horse?

No, but back in the early '90s, Greg's son, Craig, had a club at the same location as the Crazy Horse. At that time it was called Pretty Woman. Prior to that it was an Italian restaurant called The Pine Tree (not to be confused with the Pine Tavern) for years and years. Today the owners aren't even Italian, let alone LCN connected.

Craig was partners in that club with Fat Pete, who eventually ratted. Pete's the guy who introduced Greg to "Jack Garcia." When Garcia wrote about it in his book he changed Pete's name and the name of the club. I'm not sure why because, even if you didn't know him, it's all a matter of public record anyway.

Pete's another cooperating witness who's living out in the open. I won't post where, but everyone pretty much knows (hey, at least he's not blogging like that Kenji, or living the high life on South Beach like that piece of shit Paciello). Greg and Craig are dead. Junior Gotti's out of the life. So truth be told, Pete really doesn't have too much to worry about anyway.


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....ok thanks I should have known/remembered that....

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