One thing I will say is that the guys we know are made have not been very successful in keeping their names out of the press. To my eye, the 30 number circa 2007 would seem to be a very good fit--taking into consideration the number of guys that we know, or have great reason to suspect, are made.

What I'm saying is, to believe the 60 number now, you have to believe that there are currently about 20 made guys who have been consistently terrible about staying under the radar for the last 40 years, and 40 who have been excellent.

However, as Ivy has said, such conjecture is neither really here nor there.

The bottom line is FBI gave the estimate of around 30 well after Nick Calabrese had spilled to none other than the FBI.