The bottom line is, you have an agenda and you'll go with whatever number is the biggest. If somebody else came along and claimed the Outfit had 100 members, you'd drop the 50-80 members immediately and go with the bigger figure. [/quote]

Truth be told I believe deep down inside we all have an agenda, with that said many here are proud and "rep" thier areas others just like to hear themselves talk. However thier is always the one who's agenda is ego. Here is another example of the thousand where you enjoy talking down to people. This site has lost so many readable, concise posters because of either age meaning not comp savvy and can't cut and paste an article to fulfill your source requirement or they just don't have that ego where they need this forum to fulfill that missing part of thier life you find as a neccesity.