see, these are the exact kind of silly arguments that are constantly thrown towards gun owners, and then when we take the bait and respond, people are quick to jump in with terms like "gun nuts", or something similar. lets just take this board for example, i haven't seen one person on the more pro-gun side of things arguing for that, yet it doesn't stop people from using it as some sort of extreme example to paint us as crazy. what we are talking about are small arms, not those silly items you listed.