How did things get so far? What started as a thread about gun control has become wild interpretations of what the Nazis did or did not do about guns. What does this have to do with the current situation.

Bottom line here is this. There is a right to bear arms in the US that cannot be taken away unless the Second Amendment is abolished, which is not going to happpen.

It is also a fact that despite this right to bear arms, there is no individual right to have drones, atomic bombs nuclear missles, hence there already is de facto arms control. The only question therefore is how far do we go as a matter of policy.

Even if background checks, limited magazines, and the assault rifle ban all goes into effect it will not end gun violence. But as the president says, if it saves one life, its worth it.

No one is going to come and take people's guns away. Thats NRA nonsense.