My father -_-.

Sorry, i apologize

im from london. i have never heard of any presence of the italian mafia in the uk apart from fugitives in the news. my mother used to tell me stories about what the mafia does to people to deter me from the life that a lot of my family took. that is the only presence ive ever known of the mob, through stories designed to stop me from entering a life of crime. the uk has a huge gang presence with serious crews in all major cities. from ldn to manchester to newcastle. a firm that were huge in ldn and the uk were the north ldn addams family with so many murders under their belt. they structureed their family on the mob and were v successful. they even franchised their name to drug dealers. growing up a lot of people feared these lot. to say ldn is not bad is crazy. i have 1 cousin murdered, 1 cousin jailed for 15 years for heroin dealing after beating a murder rap, 1 cousin 8 years for ammunition possession drugs and more, 1 cousin in jail for gbh. huge crime presence in ldn, heard many a murder war story from each of these lot. stories of bullets flying past their heads, them shooting bosnian drug dealers in the chest, executions over girls, chopping someones arm off with a machete that owed him money used to have me eavesdropping on conversations whilst at my uncles house years ago. funny who you idolize as a kid! thats the black underworld ive known which is quite organised. the turks have a big presence also. i remmeber many an execution over drugs amongst them. 1 sticks out in my mind - a motorbike pulled up to his range rover with his wife and kid with him and executed him with shots to the head. think that was in 2009 in tottenham - big turkish drig dealer. anyways im ranting now lol

sorry i meant in a more physical presence as in other crimes apart from money laundering. around london there is no presence of a mafia family that are known and feared (that ive heard of and i have a pretty good knowledge of the undeerworld and who the players are in the uk)

what the hell the krays met with lcn!!!!!! never knew this what a find great info

well i am a londoner and i do know the streets. never heard of any mafia family being feared in the uk. even the higher ups are feared and known and i have not heard of any mafioso in this respect. they may be financiers that of other groups crime but i doubt it as there would most likely be some evidence. as soon as there was a mafia family sniffing around anything in london something would get out. would be sensational as england is such a place. yardies, turks, black english, essex firms, all types of eastern european groups, african crime groups, triads but no mafia. would love to see some evidence of them in the uk. not the aberdeen connection as it seems like a laying low type op as there is very limited opportunities in a random scottish place like this. i mean active in cities such as london, manchester with actual schemes. my point is i have never heard of it.

Check out this streetboss possible mafia hit in LDN http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberto_Calvi

i read about this not long ago funny you bring it up. how powerful must they of been to have traced him to central london and whack him in such a way?

This mafia boss from Sicily was living in UK at the time http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/may/12/roberto-calvi-blackfriars-bridge-mafia

That had some inspiration for godfather 3 didn't it nicky?

yeah the whole shitty bankers story in gf3 was based loosely on this whole situation.

Are the Essex firms still big players in London?

the essex firms always have a presence throughout the uk. the old school guys of a similar age to carlton leach, vic the dark will always have names around london and further and the game never stops. new guys r filtering through from all directions usually in the form of juiced up nutcases. The old guys in their 50s and above still run all organised crime with the youngers doing their dirty work. every now and again an old school essex name pops up so u know they are still players.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O97Blrf_mtc

rise of the footsoldiers is a movie i would recommend for everyone btw. complete true story

Great film!
Since there aren't a lot of white British people in London anymore I think the base of the homegrown white British crime firms has moved from London to Essex and Kent.
The only big homegrown firms I know of in London are the Adams crew and the Hunt firm.

They still hold weight to be honest. Their institutions in ldn and ppl will always fear them. The addams family were of white and black enforcers. "They have been linked to 25 gangland murders, using Afro-Caribbean muscle as additional manpower to murder informants and rival criminals." complete mix. However the newer gangs emerging in ldn of english nationality are black but not as organised and extremely deadly. the essex firms depicted in rise of the footsoldiers carried a lot of weight in east ldn btw.

Seconded, it's a great movie, a complete true story is a massive stretch though lol.

The days of the old school mobs are over I guess. The Adams family will remain the most famous I think. Outside of them, I knew about the Hunt firm and the Brindles that are pretty well known in local circles. Not to forget about the Arifs, who are Turkish Cypriots but kinda operate like a British firm.
For the rest I know there's a big Yardie presence along with Somali and Nigerian gangs and Black British crews like the Tottenham Mandem. These black gangs don't seem to be as organized in general.
The Turks/Kurds, Russians, Albanians and Vietnamese also seem to pack some heavy weight.

yeah i think i should take the word complete out but it must be credited with the fact it does not claim to know the true ending and gives many alternatives. my elder family member who was around that life at the time did say it was pretty accurate and spoke of how nasty these guys were and deserved the fate they received. so with a close family member as my source along with my mate's fathers i would call it an accurate film.

that tottenham mandem name is really old school from like the 80s or something. people have wrote on wiki about them and over the internet but that name is not used anymore and it wasnt organised enough to have newcomers. there are thousands of gangs all over ldn with a million diff names but that is def not 1 of them lol. not sure about the vietmanese in ldn either.

Here's a CL documentary

Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgeqzTKU2hE

Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAcLEaPBJCU

i don't think there are mafia crime families active in the uk, maybe same small gang of neapolitans or some fugitives living over there
there are money laundering operations and business owned by mafia that's sure
even in the 50s there were not mafia families there, although several ordinary italian street gangs at that time, like the messina brothers

Is Mafia even an Italian word?

This is horrible if it's true - The 'Ndrangheta boasts a turnover of £40bn, which is larger than the GDPs of Estonia and Slovenia combined

yes, thats what i thought
the are money laundering operations and business at high levels
the italians today are mostly behind the scene like the russians in london and uk
not visible on the streets like turks, blacks or local gangs

There really isn't much Italian OC in the UK.