Okay Ivy, then here's my opinion .

Re Quiet Dom and Nick:

I'm going to post this one time and I'm not going to add to it again in the future. But for what it's worth, the man lived in very close proximity to me for many years. His daughter Ann Marie is very friendly with my wife, and our kids are all friends. And I can tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt that QD hasn't been the same since the disappearance, and neither has the rest of his family.

Just because Vinny denied it to Massino in jail doesn't mean he didn't do it. It's called deniability. His saying that it "came from Dom" on tape could have been wink wink, nudge nudge, or it could just be that he was afraid to admit it to Massino, who was still the official boss at that time. Vinny's tough, but no one wants to die. No sane person, anyway.

In my opinion, as the ONLY person on this board who actually lived in the same neighborhood as both QD and Vinny at that time: Vinny did it on the sneak. And the court of public opinion in the East Bronx shares that opinion for the most part.

EHI does have that problem. It's why he's been banned twice. But I will say in matters of the Genovese Family he can be accurate. It's his rantings that make him less believable of course.

Bingo. Ask nickyeyes, i told him the same thing yesterday thru a pm. I agree 100%

I guess the reason I'm inclined to think it's very possible Dom did give the OK is, aside from the troubled history with his kid, Vinny killing the son of a major top-level Genovese guy would be taking a huge risk. People talk about him "doing it on the sneak" but, considering his previous run-ins with Nick, everyone would have known who was behind it. To do it without permission is a big spit in the face to Dom and I'm not convinced Vinny would have gotten away with that. One could argue that Vinny would have felt it was in his right, since Nick raised hands to made guys, but I still think he would have had to clear it with Dom.

Edit: I should add this is probably one of those things we'll never know for sure unless a Genovese who's in the know guy flips. Which doesn't exactly happen that often.

You know I've often wondered that myself. Was Dom in jail at the time of his son's disappearence? The West Side still packs an enormous punch. Was it a situation where Nick is killed then Basciano raises his hands in the air saying "I didn't do it?" or was there backing from other leaders of the Genovese Family who told him to let it go?

Dom Cicale.

The Genovese family is so much bigger and powerful than the Bonnanno family so I don't get how they got away with that.

You know I've often wondered that myself. Was Dom in jail at the time of his son's disappearence? The West Side still packs an enormous punch. Was it a situation where Nick is killed then Basciano raises his hands in the air saying "I didn't do it?" or was there backing from other leaders of the Genovese Family who told him to let it go?

Well i agree with you to a extent but you see my point. And johnny blue is with Tona Borelli. The reason you may be confused, is because he is like the entire states layoff book haha. A lot of guys from different crews are his sub agents.

As for the pernas and the M&Ms, yeah they were picked up in that case, but ralph wasnt. At least i dont think so. Mike P always had more pull than Ralph, but still. Plus there is their dad. I cant think of an indictment hes been in, but i know he has been making book and taking numbers sinces the 50s/60s. That big bust in 07 was his fathers book, and Mikes before that. Most of NJ has heard of the Pernas before either of those cases, and knew they were active. Mostly because they had literally thousands of customers.

Larry and Ninny are two different crews. Palumbo isnt with Ninny either (as ive seen on some charts). And yeah Joe, ive heard the same thing.

As for the thing with QDs son, like i said i disagree. These articles are making it out like "Cold Blooded Mobster Dom Cirillo Has Son Killed". Just like ive said ive heard different.

I guess my general point is that while indictments and press releases are good sources, in fact, the best you can have with out actually knowing a guy, they arent completely infallible. Now im not claiming i get weekly updates from the five families, but still, like a few others i have a little i can offer that wont be found online. I dont present it as fact or claim my sources themselves are infallible. Or will i get offended if some one doesnt agree with me or doesnt believe me. And sometimes they are in direct disagreement with indictments or reports. (eg johnny blue and ninny) Does it make it wrong? No. I understand you are going with the overwhelming evidence on things like the Fat Tony/Chin debacle (completely neutral btw) or Nick Cirillo. Like i said, my opinion may be different, is that the end of the world? I know what the evidence says and i respectfully disagree. Not trying to start a big knock down arguement here, just pointing out my difference in opinion. I think this site could use more rumors and gossip not found in Jerry Capeci. And i see ur point of veiw 100% percent, but whats wrong with both? Sourced vs Non Sourced information or rumors and ppl can decide for themselves. That being said, i enjoy the info you post here and hope to quote my main man Rodney, "Cant we all just get along"?

Thanks, Skin. But the day I have to ask NickyEyes something about MY OWN neighborhood, is the day I quit posting here .

I'm kidding, Nicky. You're a good boy .

Resolution of a sitdown, most probably. The kid Cirillo was clearly in the wrong, raising hands to wiseguys.

THis has been brought up before what did he put his hands on baladmenti for I remember reading an article and that Dom didn't give a shit because his kid was a deadbeat junkie and a member of the Addams Family back in the 1990's (well he worked on the set )

How recent is that photo of Dom?

Does anyone have a photo of his son Nick?