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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges? [Re: meffaboston] #691163
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Originally Posted By: Southphilly13
The juror that was sick has been dismissed. This mean deliberations start all over!! Ive been sitting on a floor in a hallway for 2 weeks!! What a fucking joke!!

That's honestly a shame. I feel sorry for all the families sitting through this crap. It definitely sucks.

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but what about work, brah?!

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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges? [Re: pizzaboy] #691207
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Southphilly, I am sure the defense is shaking and the defendants are not so confident now:

"The juror who was replaced was a sixty-something African-American woman who apparently had contracted the flu. She called in sick Tuesday and Wednesday morning sent a message saying she was going to the hospital.

Defense and prosecution attorneys discussed the situation with Robreno who ultimately decided to excuse the woman and replace her with one of four alternate jurors who have been on stand-by since deliberations began. The replacement juror is a middle-aged white woman from the suburbs whose husband is a police officer, according to a member of the defense camp"

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Thought the same thing but there is someone else on the jury from a 60'year old woman (no offense to anyone) that is taking the defense side. Even after the removal there was disfunction still showing with the foreman stepping down showing that he doesn't see an agreement. I'm leaning towards hung jury - this is clearly not a black and white prosecution with very skeptical govt witnesses (monacello and Orlando ; one was buried by a government official and the other I just couldn't rely on his testimony in locking someone up in jail). These jurors must hate each other by this point

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The kid damion what are his exact charges an what was he convicted for before an when do you think he was made..

Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges? [Re: cheech] #691278
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Originally Posted By: cheech
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"The request to revisit certain tapes suggested the panel was working on charges toward the end of the 52-count indictment.
However, jurors could be deciding individual loansharking and gambling charges before weighing Count One — the racketeering conspiracy charge facing all seven defendants. "

Sounds about right, I stated (see above) that I believe it will be guilty across the board with everybody getting convicted of at least one charge. Reading that the jury could be analyzing specific charges for each of these defendants makes this even more plausible IMO.



still think guilty across the board?


As of right now, yes. I am sticking to my previous prediction even though the possibility of a mistrial is increasing by the day. And yourself? Sounds to me like your really hoping one of these guys gets off so you can be happy and then say you were right and I was wrong and join the other fanboys on this thread. Sound about right to you?

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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges? [Re: southphilly old head] #691284
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I dont know if that juror getting sick was bad or good..Because an older black woman who is more probally foregiving than this next juror..Now being replaced by a middle aged woman from the subarbs whos husband is a cop..That older lady getting sick might not be good..

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I want to say miss trial ! Or I want to see Not Proven ! I think this jury can't make up their mind . It is what it is ! Regardless this should be a state case across the board ! The guy Joe Vito made a Ton for years and will get a slap on the wrist ! He is. The real deal from reading the message boards and even Scaro couldn't shake him ! Now who The real LCn ? This entire case is petty ! Are the guys somewhat guilty ,Iam sure ,but let the state handle it !

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I wonder what the composition of the jury looks like now ... if take from Philly , would bet there are at least one or two more minorities

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Originally Posted By: Joselevens
I wonder what the composition of the jury looks like now ... if take from Philly , would bet there are at least one or two more minorities


Philly is a black city! Its a democractic machine! I'm sure they dismissed that lady because she didn't like the snitches wanted to put a few hollows in those bitches ....


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Originally Posted By: Boardwalkguy
I want to say miss trial ! Or I want to see Not Proven ! I think this jury can't make up their mind . It is what it is ! Regardless this should be a state case across the board ! The guy Joe Vito made a Ton for years and will get a slap on the wrist ! He is. The real deal from reading the message boards and even Scaro couldn't shake him ! Now who The real LCn ? This entire case is petty ! Are the guys somewhat guilty ,Iam sure ,but let the state handle it !


Yes we've been over this before they are high society...they are real modern day racketeers that used political clout


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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges? [Re: meffaboston] #691325
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Originally Posted By: meffaboston
The kid damion what are his exact charges an what was he convicted for before an when do you think he was made..
I'm pretty sure he's standing trial for being part of a bookmaking operation and taking bets, before he was convicted on drug charges, and I believe he was made in the class of 2007 at the same time as Big Lou Fazzini,Eric Esposito,and several unnamed others

Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges? [Re: Dapper_Don] #691328
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Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don
Originally Posted By: cheech
Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don
"The request to revisit certain tapes suggested the panel was working on charges toward the end of the 52-count indictment.
However, jurors could be deciding individual loansharking and gambling charges before weighing Count One — the racketeering conspiracy charge facing all seven defendants. "

Sounds about right, I stated (see above) that I believe it will be guilty across the board with everybody getting convicted of at least one charge. Reading that the jury could be analyzing specific charges for each of these defendants makes this even more plausible IMO.



still think guilty across the board?


As of right now, yes. I am sticking to my previous prediction even though the possibility of a mistrial is increasing by the day. And yourself? Sounds to me like your really hoping one of these guys gets off so you can be happy and then say you were right and I was wrong and join the other fanboys on this thread. Sound about right to you?




after the trial I plan on starting a website, copying and pasting mafia articles from other news sources and then I'll call it a blog.

who's the fanboy?


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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges? [Re: southphilly old head] #691334
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^ lol asshole comment but true


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Originally Posted By: FrankMazola
@SouthPhilly13

I know it's your brother but what about work, brah?!

If not... doesn't SOMEBODY gotta be doin his collections for him?????


Brah Frank your a pig man why u asking shit like that PM him or something


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mafia members or not i just think the trial was all hype...waste of money and they could be going out to get real bad guys, not a bunch of brokesters taking football bets and extorting video poker machines...i just dont think the govt put forth many credible witnesses or arguments

just my opinion

i am far from a fanboy


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Originally Posted By: cheech
mafia members or not i just think the trial was all hype...waste of money and they could be going out to get real bad guys, not a bunch of brokesters taking football bets and extorting video poker machines...i just dont think the govt put forth many credible witnesses or arguments

just my opinion

i am far from a fanboy


What your forgetting though is..its not like thats the only stuff they were involved in...its like Capone with tax exvasion


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dicknose i get your point and agree but i just believe we are wasting a lot of time...in new york they would have already walked


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Originally Posted By: cheech
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Originally Posted By: cheech
Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don
"The request to revisit certain tapes suggested the panel was working on charges toward the end of the 52-count indictment.
However, jurors could be deciding individual loansharking and gambling charges before weighing Count One — the racketeering conspiracy charge facing all seven defendants. "

Sounds about right, I stated (see above) that I believe it will be guilty across the board with everybody getting convicted of at least one charge. Reading that the jury could be analyzing specific charges for each of these defendants makes this even more plausible IMO.



still think guilty across the board?


As of right now, yes. I am sticking to my previous prediction even though the possibility of a mistrial is increasing by the day. And yourself? Sounds to me like your really hoping one of these guys gets off so you can be happy and then say you were right and I was wrong and join the other fanboys on this thread. Sound about right to you?




after the trial I plan on starting a website, copying and pasting mafia articles from other news sources and then I'll call it a blog.

who's the fanboy?



I probably came off a little too angry in that post which I didnt mean to, but your response was warranted. Fair enough, even though I have been asked by those sites to continue the blog since it sends many hits their way but thats another story in itself which I wont get into. Just to be clear, my blog is a news aggregator on the mob nothing more, just like Huffpost is a news aggregator on all news topics.

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I know the philadelphia judicial system is a mess


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Originally Posted By: cheech
mafia members or not i just think the trial was all hype...waste of money and they could be going out to get real bad guys, not a bunch of brokesters taking football bets and extorting video poker machines...i just dont think the govt put forth many credible witnesses or arguments

just my opinion

i am far from a fanboy


Your right, even though I disagree with you that they should walk. I respect your opinion. Your not a fanboy unlike a few others in this thread.


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Originally Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti
What your forgetting though is..its not like thats the only stuff they were involved in...its like Capone with tax exvasion

That's a fair point, DN. It's also fair to point out that some people believe in karma (for lack of a better word). Kind old Uncle Joe was a convicted murderer before some slick defense lawyers (the true gangsters) got him off on a technicality.

He likely would have died in prison if not for a miracle ten years into his sentence. So some people might take the attitude that, "Well, these charges are trumped up, but what goes around comes around."

In short, I completely agree that gamblers and debtors don't belong in prison for more than short stretches, but murderers do.

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dicknose i get your point and agree but i just believe we are wasting a lot of time...in new york they would have already walked

Only to a degree, Cheech. They would have walked on all of the gambling charges here in New York by now. But they'd still stand trial or plea out on the extortion. The no show health insurance is also a big deal to some people because of the timeliness of the whole thing. Half the country uninsured, Obamacare, etc.


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I bet there are a lot of widows and fatherless kids across S.Philly that wish this was just about gambling and loan-sharking.Somehow I don't feel like the last 50 mobsters in S.Philly died of natural causes.So the next time somebody says the Feds should be trying to get the guns off the street,your right but make sure its ALL the guns.

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Originally Posted By: 22
I bet there are a lot of widows and fatherless kids across S.Philly that wish this was just about gambling and loan-sharking.Somehow I don't feel like the last 50 mobsters in S.Philly died of natural causes.So the next time somebody says the Feds should be trying to get the guns off the street,your right but make sure its ALL the guns.

Yeah, I completely agree. People just gotta take off the blinders.

It's fine to say, "The Feds should go after the dope pushers and the murderers." But when the wiseguys ARE the dope pushers and the murderers, then people should at least be consistent and say as much.

And I'm obviously not referencing this case. This case has nothing to do with drugs or murders (on the surface, anyway).


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after the trial I plan on starting a website, copying and pasting mafia articles from other news sources and then I'll call it a blog.

who's the fanboy?

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I probably came off a little too angry in that post which I didnt mean to, but your response was warranted. Fair enough, even though I have been asked by those sites to continue the blog since it sends many hits their way but thats another story in itself which I wont get into. Just to be clear, my blog is a news aggregator on the mob nothing more, just like Huffpost is a news aggregator on all news topics. [/quote]

all good dap, and whats funny is I go to your blog daily wink


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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti
What your forgetting though is..its not like thats the only stuff they were involved in...its like Capone with tax exvasion

That's a fair point, DN. It's also fair to point out that some people believe in karma (for lack of a better word). Kind old Uncle Joe was a convicted murderer before some slick defense lawyers (the true gangsters) got him off on a technicality.

He likely would have died in prison if not for a miracle ten years into his sentence. So some people might take the attitude that, "Well, these charges are trumped up, but what goes around comes around."

In short, I completely agree that gamblers and debtors don't belong in prison for more than short stretches, but murderers do.

Originally Posted By: cheech
dicknose i get your point and agree but i just believe we are wasting a lot of time...in new york they would have already walked

Only to a degree, Cheech. They would have walked on all of the gambling charges here in New York by now. But they'd still stand trial or plea out on the extortion. The no show health insurance is also a big deal to some people because of the timeliness of the whole thing. Half the country uninsured, Obamacare, etc.



agree Pizzaboy, all fair points

im in new haven ct...do u ever venture down here? pizza best in the world smile


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agree Pizzaboy, all fair points

im in new haven ct...do u ever venture down here? pizza best in the world smile

Thanks, Cheech. You're a good man smile.

I stop at Frank Pepe's EVERY time I come home from Foxwoods or Mohegan Sun. And that's no Google search post. I swear on my kids I've been going to that place for over forty years.

When I was growing up in the '60s and '70s, we vacationed in Mystic every Summer for about fifteen years running. Frank's was always an obligatory stop because my grandfather went "way back" with the original owner. They recently opened a place up in Yonkers, just north of the Bronx. The food is very good, but the pizza isn't as good as the one in New Haven.

But best pizza in the world? New Haven? We're getting along great, so let's not go down that road. I'm from the Bronx. Let's stick together and have that argument with someone from North Dakota lol.


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agree Pizzaboy, all fair points

im in new haven ct...do u ever venture down here? pizza best in the world smile

Thanks, Cheech. You're a good man smile.

I stop at Frank Pepe's EVERY time I come home from Foxwoods or Mohegan Sun. And that's no Google search post. I swear on my kids I've been going to that place for over forty years.

When I was growing up in the '60s and '70s, we vacationed in Mystic every Summer for about fifteen years running. Frank's was always an obligatory stop because my grandfather went "way back" with the original owner. They recently opened a place up in Yonkers, just north of the Bronx. The food is very good, but the pizza isn't as good as the one in New Haven.

But best pizza in the world? New Haven? We're getting along great, so let's not go down that road. I'm from the Bronx. Let's stick together and have that argument with someone from North Dakota lol.



hysterical, but had to big up my city...Wooster Square is where I grew up...personally i like Sally's better but the white clam at Pepe's is unbelievably good...yes they have several locations now, i know yonkers well used to go up there in my early twenties for unscrupulous reasons...they actually have a place in mohegan now i believe but none of those other places are as good as the one on wooster IMO...the yuppies wait out in the rain for hours for the pie

next time you head that way pm me, i'll walk you around the old neighborhood, beautiful in the summer

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Originally Posted By: cheech
i know yonkers well used to go up there in my early twenties for unscrupulous reasons.

Back in the '70s, TIME Magazine wrote, and I quote, that Yonkers was the "Most corrupt city of its size in the entire country."

Yonkers had loads of wiseguys and Italians in general back in the day. Not so much today. Most of the Italians have moved to northern Westchester, along the Connecticut border.

Originally Posted By: cheech
next time you head that way pm me, i'll walk you around the old neighborhood, beautiful in the summer


Will do, buddy smile.


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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges? [Re: DickNose_Moltasanti] #691383
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Originally Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti
Originally Posted By: FrankMazola
@SouthPhilly13

I know it's your brother but what about work, brah?!

If not... doesn't SOMEBODY gotta be doin his collections for him?????


Brah Frank your a pig man why u asking shit like that PM him or something


Hey dicknose.. both the fratboy lingo I used and the question about collections was a joke. I could care less who's handling the brother's *alleged* criminal activity. Lighten up, man...


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