Who made a black guy?

I heard Staino's boy and Uncle Joe's boy (the fuckup not the actor or the insurance agent) were working for Ligambi and Co. Any truth to this anyone???

Even if it is Frank leave them out of it for now they'll be indicted in 4 to 5 years if they are

Does anyone have audio testimony of Monacello similar to Orlando and the FBI agents. Testimony was great to listen to and not sure how to find it.
Honestly I hope these guys walk - would make Feds think twice when they don't have real charges to go on. Jacobs and Scoops attorneys did a fantastic job - the woman defense attorney maybe the weekest as she let Orlando talk and talk on his answers when that clearly wasn't what she was going for. Jacobs and Scoops let Fed Agent explain and then pounce - they were prepared for it.
As others have said even an acquittal would be temporary with the Nicodemo problem out there. Did this come from South Florida ? Merlino in Philly for Chuckies funeral not long ago - was order given then? Video footage has Nicodemo attending the funeral..maybe a stretch but coincidence?

Those video poker machines were a known money-maker for years.So basically ''Tony Machines'' and that guy ''Peg Leg'' controlled them for a long time,withstanding a hit attempt by Natale and Joey.Finally these guys on trial now were able to make a deal in their favor or else.The family of those guys were not able to take on a war so they gave in.What should that be called? Its just like if you have a car you love and somebody says they want to buy it,even though its not for sale if you don't sell it you may not be around to drive it.Obviously something has to give,you just can't threaten people and take from them.

Does anyone have a picture of Michael Orlando - they could come down with the verdict tomorrow after a long weekend...must be difficult to keep someone like Borgesi in for more time at this point. His major mistake was trusting Bent Finger .. don't understand why he wouldn't have his brother or someone closer to the fam that was proven. Think Scoops walks and the same for Dame .. Staino Ligambi and Moussie have the video poker to get by which is probably the one that will stick the most. Could mean long sentences for those two with their priors. Makes the street scene quite interesting now and wondering who runs the street with the big guy in south Florida. I know everyone is saying Johnny Chang but one more pinch and he's gone for good - cant see him risking; same said for Mazzone. Would expect a few new names to rise up with Joeys blessing also throwing a bone to some of the older guys getting out and on the street.

Milicia started paying the street tax to the mob after he was wounded. I'm not sure if that continued after he died (don't know why it wouldn't) but you're right about them taking the entire business being extortion.

Just curious , what working relationship did Tony machines have with Scarfo in the 80's ? He owned a lot of bars in south Phila .

I don't think they had any. One way or another he avoided paying the street tax to both Scarfo and Stanfa. At least during Scarfo's reign, the family was making plenty of money through other video poker operations, including through Carmine Ricci and Brian Petaccio. So maybe Milicia wasn't that big of a priority. But by the time Natale was the boss, he was apparently back in the mob's crosshairs.

Not big of a priority ! He operated in South Phila ! Lol it's their backyard !

True enough but, for some reason, he avoided paying. I'm just throwing out possibilities for why that was. Considering how strongly Scarfo enforced the street tax, it's certainly surprising he wasn't killed.

Plain and Simple Power Brokers has replaced the word politicians in Philadelphia...For example..Plus a lot of 2nd and 3rd generation families in Phila are related thru marriage or have business dealings with one another. Scarfo's time as you know he was in Atlantic City most of the time and with his ego I think poker machines were on the bottom of the food chain at that given time considering the other rackets that were viable at the time..

Your right Dapper there's quiete a few in there neck of the woods, just ask Tommy Delgiorno or Scarfo Jrs pal over in Jersey ,Andrew"Merola"Knapik

Google Michel Orlando. His picture is out there on a site with the report when he got locked up for the credit fraud thing. Im working now, dont feel like looking for it.

no decision today? i think the longer the better for defense no?

still think guilty across the board?

I dunno. Whenever I take a guess at such things it comes out the other way. All I know is both legal sides spin it their way when the jury is out this long.

After all this time how could they just say not guilty or not proven.I think they are all getting something except maybe Borgesi.The more I think about that it seems like he was just brought into this to delay him getting out.When you think of it he was incarcerated the whole time this investigation took place.I mean they knew where he was the whole time.It seems like the Feds have such a hard-on for Borgesi[probably because of his attitude during the 01 trial

No the reason Borgesi was brought j to this is because it was from his crew that spawned the rat Lou Monacello, and not jut the governments but Rat Finger Lou's hard on for Borgesi that brought him into it, also if they didn't catch Scoops mention the Johhny Gongs hit in passing I doubt he'd be imprisoned either

If it is a hung jury do they retry this or just go after niccodemo with a sweetheart deal

George Anastasia usually puts out his bigtrial article around dinner time .. interesting it's going so long - could that single one juror holdout ? I always think the next day will be the day but gotta believe it's tomorrow or Wednesday

new article on www.bigtrial.net
Doesn't offer much new though

http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/uploadedImages/Press/orlandomichael.jpg

That's the wrong Mike Orlando. But he's a Rat too...

Exactly. The media will put a spin on it given who is whispering in their ear that day whether its the prosecution or defense. The jury seems to be analyzing the evidence thoroughly and I liked the statement Jacobs made to the Jury given the amount of time that this is what they found and there they were looking for something bigger. These prosecutors really seem to have pushed the envelope in this case. If this were in NY they would all get what 2 years?

"He's a rat too" Yeah that was from a drug ring I guess the other one spmob said was for Credit Card Fraud?

Yeah an article on Philly.com has him listed as

Michael Francis Orlando Jr.

What are you getting at that he could try and sue for unlawful detainment?

scoops and borgesi get a good ride home tomaarow i dont know about the other 5. hope they'll all go home but the mofo's is thinking alot about them poker machines.

I saw that Orlando picture before - figured it wasn't him by age alone. He looked too young..

Yeah I should probably take it down..but then again he fits the genere of a a gangster! yeah I just read the indictment the kid was only 27 at the time that was in 2010...so hes pushing 30