pizzaboy is a good guy, so don't be too hard on him. the problem i have, is if they didn't have the "assault weapons" boogyman to work with here, they would have just as easily substituted handguns. thats they problem with liberals on the gun issue. they claim to not want to "take all your guns", but if modern sporting rifles are banned and something happens with a handgun, they will become the next target. ditto for shotguns, until all we are left with is bolt-action rifles that are required by law to be locked up in a safe at all times, effectively making self defense impossible. who even needs them, only black powder should be permitted for hunting, even though the 2nd amendment has nothing at all to do with hunting.

i get frustrated with people on this topic, but i'm not mad as they are just doing what they think is best. unfortunatly, people often fail to grasp the bigger picture. guns are the ultimate symbol of freedom and self reliance, and once that is slowly eroded by playing on peoples emotions, then what? i hate this idea of "you don't need that". its silly at best, and dangerous at worst. although they are different things, you don't "need" a car with 400+ hp. you don't "need" a motorcycle. once the socialist healthcare goes into place, you might not "need" to go skydiving, whitewater rafting, or any of the countless other dangerous activities as might be deemed such by the government. governments all throughout history are about one thing, control, ours is no different. i try not to focus on the "what ifs", but you always have to keep in mind these extremes when making decisions.

i try not to pay much attention at all to any gun statistic, because they are so easily manipulated, but i think turnbull said there are something like 3 million ar style rifles in circulation. a few people make dumb decisions with said rifles, and the knee-jerk reaction is to ban all of them? sound logic right there.

where are all these so called "liberals" at who claim to care so much for children,when we have blown up hundreds in the past few years in pakistan under a nobel piece prize winning president?

Last edited by Five_Felonies; 12/23/12 07:21 PM.

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