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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
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hey jmack that is all hear say at this point on who the shooters are. Nicademo isnt even in the ligambi case. Pure speculation. i can tell you this much, gongs had a lot of enemies
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
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I think ga said something like this in a mob scene report but if it was true or if the feds highly considered this to be accurate they would have reacted
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
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hey jmack that is all hear say at this point on who the shooters are. Nicademo isnt even in the ligambi case. Pure speculation. i can tell you this much, gongs had a lot of enemies he was hated by many but it was clear the family took him out thats why in the most recent indictment you have scoops telling ligambi that they are glad they finally got rid of him while both are laughing about it
Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife? Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
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hey jmack that is all hear say at this point on who the shooters are. Nicademo isnt even in the ligambi case. Pure speculation. i can tell you this much, gongs had a lot of enemies he was hated by many but it was clear the family took him out thats why in the most recent indictment you have scoops telling ligambi that they are glad they finally got rid of him while both are laughing about it Yes in the tapes it is made very clear that the family took him out. I also think there is more to the tapes than we have heard. I think they are going to try to use them to get someone to flip. If no one takes the bait, they will wait until after the convictions to get someone to turn. The family should probably take a page from the Genoveses and cut their losses with a deal.
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
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i mean i didnt hear the evidence in the thomas giosi trial in new york a couple of weeks ago but if they had numerous tapes and 6 or 7 informants take the stand i would lean on the side of guilty if i was on the jury but if im on the jury and i see a bunch of guys on trial for loan sharking and mostly gambling charges where nobody got hurt i dont think i could convict them.Thats if i was on the jury. Put your self on the jury and think about how you would feel? i followed the gioli trial closely, they didnt have any tapes or surveillance evidence besides some family pics of gioli with calabro and others throughout the years. Tommy and Little Dino did beat the murder charges BUT they were still convicted of RICO murder conspiracy and will prob get at least 15 years at sentencing. you are right there is no violence alleged besides canolichio beating a debtor with a baseball bat and scoops and ligambi joking about the gongs murder, idk about you but that would def be enough to cast suspicion of guilt in my mind as a juror. and those wiretap transcipt the feds released were as george anastasia put it a "teaser" of things to come down the line so lets wait and see. if i had to predict what happens it would be as follows: with the feds releasing some of those wiretap convos and indicting scoops and fazzini now they are letting all of them stew at the philly mdc without any bail while they wonder if any of their codefendants will flip. the feds play the waiting game and as the trial date gets closer and if there are no plea deals then the feds leak (through newspapers or anastasia) some more wiretap convos and possibly release another superseeding indictment and then they play the waiting game again. the feds told anastasia that merlino will "very likely" be brought back up to philly by the end of the summer to face charges of associating with felons down in florida and violate his parole and send him back to the can.
Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife? Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
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Thanks for clearing that giosi trial up for me but i read the indictment and canalichio is bragging about this so called bat beating and we really dont know if it happened and they dont have a person that was beaten with a bat that is gona take the stand
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
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He was a maniac that had that small man desease. Made money but a real nut One Oldhead I use to bet with, told me use to spit on the dead bodies and shit lol I can picture him hawking up a loogie and spitting on a dead corpse
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
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Also George Anastashia wants to give everyone a little tid bit at a time to keep his fan base up. I mean hes gotta eat too! The way Anastasia talks about the Philly mob, that tone of voice like hes enjoying himself too much makes him look like someone who wishes he was with them. He probably even tried to ingratiate himself years ago and wasn't accepted! Well, he has been beaten by Ralph Natale and you all know about that fool.
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
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What kind of time is Uncle Joe, underlings, etc looking at with a Genovese esque plea deal?
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
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Also George Anastashia wants to give everyone a little tid bit at a time to keep his fan base up. I mean hes gotta eat too! The way Anastasia talks about the Philly mob, that tone of voice like hes enjoying himself too much makes him look like someone who wishes he was with them. He probably even tried to ingratiate himself years ago and wasn't accepted! Well, he has been beaten by Ralph Natale and you all know about that fool. I highly doubt Ralph Natale put a hand on him. That would be pretty funny to see him fight someone though. A family member of mine worked at the newspaper with him, and they wouldn't even tell some of the employees, where he was at certain times. A lot has changed though, him having fear in the past I could see, but not in the present.
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