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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
[Re: 123JoeSchmo]
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12/12/12 10:41 PM
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Wow this is great stuff thanks Dap. I listened to this on my way home from the office, i encourage everybody to take a listen priceless stuff on these tapes, i thank jerryb from the other side for uploading them, he got them from PACER
Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife? Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
[Re: 123JoeSchmo]
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12/12/12 10:54 PM
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This puts a whole new spin on the inner workings of the Philly Mob. Scarfo guys are active and two New York families have dealings with them. There was a recent article from Capeci about why Philly guys love Steven Crea, what was that about? apparently crea while he was acting boss and amuso was still official was stalling in making nicky scarfo jr into the lucchese fam,finally amuso sent word from the can to "get it done" and scarfo jr was made as a favor to scarfo sr who was prison buddies with amuso, the philly guys like licata were on the tapes talking about how crea did everything he could to stall it and they respected him for that
Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife? Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
[Re: 123JoeSchmo]
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12/12/12 11:08 PM
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They don't sound like they liked Nicky Jr. that much. I heard that kid's an idiot and a brat. Jr is a HUGE money maker thats for sure. Licata was telling this whole story to the Gambinos and was asking the Gambinos for their support in this issue with the Lucchese fam (this was back in 2010) cause the fact they made nicky jr as a favor to nicky sr who was never getting out the can still pissed off the philly fam, licata called amuso a bitch, the gambinos just listened and didnt take sides.
Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife? Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
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12/12/12 11:14 PM
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From what I gathered listening to the conversation, it sounds like the Gambino's kind of yawned and let the issue resolve itself. Crea was forced to make the kid? He's the boss after all he can make his own decisions. well amuso was still the official boss at this point (amuso proposed scarfo jr in 98, he was officially inducted in mid-1999) and crea was just acting
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Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife? Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
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12/13/12 02:17 PM
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SP13 do you know if nicodemo had some kind of pill or drug problem because what he is being accused of and the way they found him seems pretty stoopid Why would you ask that? Seems like a random question. IF, and that's a big if, nicodemo had anything to do with this, it could be for any number of possibilities. This hit may not have been sanctioned but that doesn't mean it wasn't planned. The police are looking for one to two other people the story says, who may or may not be involved. Three people sounds like a planned hit, not spur of the moment. This may truly speak to the state of underworld affairs. If he feels like he can do this during a mob trial he is either the stupidest, or ballsiest, person I have ever seen. Either way, we don't know yet what happened.
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
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12/13/12 03:55 PM
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If he feels like he can do this during a mob trial he is either the stupidest, or ballsiest, person I have ever seen. Having balls is one thing, but copping a sneak on a guy while your boss is on trial is quite another (if that's what happened). Years ago you'd get dead for something like this. Today they'll probably give the guy a reality show.
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
[Re: spmob]
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12/13/12 04:28 PM
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Im going to hold off bashing until we know some more info. This could be a number of different things. It does seem stupid but I am going to wait until we have (if we get) more info. At this point my only emotion is SHOCK. Agreed
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
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12/13/12 04:29 PM
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If he feels like he can do this during a mob trial he is either the stupidest, or ballsiest, person I have ever seen. Having balls is one thing, but copping a sneak on a guy while your boss is on trial is quite another (if that's what happened). Years ago you'd get dead for something like this. Today they'll probably give the guy a reality show. That's exactly what I mean. This would have never happened before 1980 when Bruno was killed. That's the sad shape things are in today.
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
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12/13/12 08:30 PM
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A federal judge said he would individually question the 15 jurors in the federal racketeering trial of seven alleged Philadelphia mobsters when court resumes Tuesday to see if they have been exposed to news coverage of this week's apparent mob hit that killed Gino DiPietro.The shooting of DiPietro, 50, just before 3 p.m. Tuesday in South Philadelphia, brought an element of surprise to the trial of Joseph "Uncle Joe" Ligambi and six underlings as it ended its eighth week of testimony with the conclusion of the federal prosecutors' case. The jurors were not present in court on Thursday, a day reserved for lawyers for the seven alleged mobsters to argue motions for judgments of acquittal, a usual move once the prosecution's case has ended. U.S. District Judge Eduardo C. Robreno said he would rule on the motions on Tuesday when the trial resumes. But before judge and lawyers ended Thursday's trial session, Ligambi's lawyer, Edwin Jacobs, brought up the DiPietro killing and how it might affect the trial jury. Jacobs told Robreno he was worried because DiPietro's name had been mentioned in trial testimony and various media reports were speculating on a link between the shooting and the trial. "I think it's incumbent upon the court to say something about being exposed to this," Jacobs said. Despite weeks of testimony, DiPietro's name may very well be familiar to jurors. One of the last wiretapped conversations prosecutors played for the jury involved DiPietro and the speaker the jurors heard was Ligambi co-defendant Damion Canalichio. It was Robreno who suggested that he call the jurors individually into his chambers as they arrive on Tuesday morning to determine if they knew anything about DiPietro's killing and, if they did, whether they could still fairly consider the evidence against the seven.Organized-crime expert George Anastasia, a former veteran Inquirer reporter now blogging about the Ligambi trial for the Internet site BigTrial.net, said that if DiPietro's slaying is linked to the Philadelphia mob or any of the seven defendants, it would undercut the defense's theory of the case: a nonviolent, modern organized crime family far removed from the storied days of violence and hitmen. Anastasia said DiPietro, a convicted drug dealer, was rumored to be cooperating with law enforcement. Philadelphia police are questioning reputed mob soldier, Anthony Nicodemo, 41, about the shooting although Nicodemo has not been charged. Assuming there are no significant problems arising from jurors exposed to the news reports about the shooting, Robreno said the defense would begin its case late Tuesday morning. Based on the defense lawyers' assessments, Robreno said he expected the defense cases might end as early as Wednesday afternoon.After the end of testimony, the jurors would hear closing arguments from the prosecution and defense lawyers, get instructions in the law from Robreno and then begin deliberating on a verdict. http://www.fivefamiliesnyc.com/2012/12/judge-to-question-trial-jurors-about.html
Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife? Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
[Re: spmob]
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12/14/12 11:47 AM
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Jeez, ever since the murder of Bruno, the hits have just become dumber and dumber and dumber. Scarfo was a crazy fuck, Joey was just an incompetent, major egoistic fuck face and now Ligambi was doing a good job bringing the family up again and this fuck Nicodemo goes and messes it all up at the worst possible time ever! I guess the Philly mafia has always been destined to earn itself the reputation of being an ultra-violent dysfunctional family...
Tony Soprano : I thought I told you to back off Beansie!
Richie Aprile : I did, Then I put it in drive..
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
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12/14/12 11:51 AM
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Can they ask for a mistrial because of this?
Like I posted yesterday, they may get a mistrial without even asking. And that's hardly good news. Bail will continue to be denied. The Feds will work on flipping this idiot Nicodemo. Meanwhile, if they do, you can be sure that a couple of old murders will be tacked on to the gambling case that had "no violence." In short, they're done. It's all over but the shouting for the current Philly administration. The only remotely interesting question at this point is whether or not this can reach Joey. If someone can offer that poor bastard up on an ancient murder charge, his life may just become a movie yet.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
[Re: spmob]
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12/14/12 12:10 PM
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And if thats the case, its about time they made a good movie about the philly mob. I know he's a New York guy, but you guys have to put your tails between your legs and beg Scorsese to direct .
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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