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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
[Re: southphilly old head]
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12/04/12 09:16 PM
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Didnt look too good for Ligambi, Staino, or Mousie today in court. "Joseph Procaccini, a major video poker machine vendor in the Philadelphia area, told a federal jury Tuesday that mob boss Joseph "Uncle Joe" Ligambi and two of his top associates forced Procaccini and a business partner to give up their control of a highly lucrative poker machine distribution network back in 2001. "If we didn't deal with them they were just going to take it and we'd be left with nothing," Procaccini said when asked how Ligambi and his associates took 34 video poker machines assigned to 20 different locations. "We would get hurt if we didn't play ball with them...They said if we did, they wouldn't bother the rest of our business." Dressed in a gray, sharkskin suit, black shirt and gray tie, Procaccini, 53, spent two hours detailing what authorities have charged was the extortion of his buisness, M&P Vending, by Ligambi and co-defendants Joseph "Mousie" Massimino and Anthony Staino. In what may have been the most damaging testimony to date in the two-month-old trial, Procaccini said he and his business partner met with Ligambi and Massimino in May 2001 to dicsuss a business proposal. The meeting, Procaccini testified, was set up by Joseph Malone, a South Philadelphia bar owner and the father-in-law of mobster Steven Mazzone." http://www.fivefamiliesnyc.com/2012/12/the-philadelphia-mob-made-us-offer-we.html
Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife? Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
[Re: southphilly old head]
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12/04/12 10:51 PM
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Dapper_Don
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the thing with the 3rd party you say, the joker poker company was directly involved in the negotiations with ligambi and co, so they arent really a third party, the guy testifying met directly with the top guys of the family, thats devastating testimony, and best believe the feds have all the documents/checks/agreements to back it all up.
i still say bent finger lou hurt borgesi, not the other guys as much but he did hurt george.
Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife? Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
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12/04/12 10:57 PM
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
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12/05/12 02:44 AM
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multiple agencies, surviellence teams, wiretaps sat on 24.7,tailing guys around the clock...say a dozen cops, making [at least] fifty grand a year plus another twenty in overtime.for what? eleven years?i am awful at math, but thats about eight,nine mil just man hours alone.to catch what? hell catching them on four murders isnt even worth that. plus equipment, court costs, das salaries, pay for jury duty,bailiff,wpp for scumbag informants. are mob cases really worth that much? take out the 'family', the 'lcn' aspect, and what is it?a loose patern of racketeering based on slot machines and unpaid debts. you sound like a mobster pleading his case, fact is most of the surveillance is very high tech nowadays (recorders in rolex watches) which doesnt require as many manhours or agents as it did in the past. Yeah that spyware is expensive if you buy it as a civilian for a hobby or a small business but if the government is paying for it, its a drop in the bucket.
Random Poster:"I'm sorry I didn't go to an Ivy-league school like you"
"Ah I actually I didn't. It's a nickname the feds gave the Genovese Family."
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
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12/05/12 05:00 AM
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And if I am honest... i hope they get off for what they were charged for. rooting for the hometown mob? George is screwed and so is Joe at least Joe's family has some cake. Mousie will continue to operate shit from prison..he's use too jerking off to cum-stained playboys that have been passed up and down the block
Random Poster:"I'm sorry I didn't go to an Ivy-league school like you"
"Ah I actually I didn't. It's a nickname the feds gave the Genovese Family."
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
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12/05/12 09:24 AM
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multiple agencies, surviellence teams, wiretaps sat on 24.7,tailing guys around the clock...say a dozen cops, making [at least] fifty grand a year plus another twenty in overtime.for what? eleven years?i am awful at math, but thats about eight,nine mil just man hours alone.to catch what? hell catching them on four murders isnt even worth that. plus equipment, court costs, das salaries, pay for jury duty,bailiff,wpp for scumbag informants. are mob cases really worth that much? take out the 'family', the 'lcn' aspect, and what is it?a loose patern of racketeering based on slot machines and unpaid debts. agreed, complete waste of time...i think this whole trial is a joke and i hope they beat all the charges, i am especially rooting for Georgie....guys been in the can for over a decade.
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
[Re: southphilly old head]
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12/05/12 05:41 PM
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To spmob, other "supporters":
The way I see it, the power vacuum left by middle management and uncle Joe in the can is only going to bring worse criminal elements to South Philly and beyond. Why don't the Justice Department take a more rational approach here.
While an 'eager for headlines' prosecutor could stand to gain a little good press putting Uncle Joe away for 7+ (escentially a death sentence); he stands to lose alot more. If this thing blows up in Uncle Sam's face, further mafia prosecution may become harder in the future. Think about it, next time around a Judge may be more reluctant to sign off on a wire tap or a warrant.I can see it, "The last time I authorized this it took 10 years. And all you could come up was a RICO that's a glorified bookie case."
My advise to the USJD is, Don't play your hand til you got something good. At least better than this.
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
[Re: southphilly old head]
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12/05/12 09:19 PM
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To those who claimed in this thread that the Nicky Skins tapes were already played during the trial, you were right. I just confirmed they were played in the beginning, no hard feelings if I didnt believe you. Recently, it has become the norm with people claiming this and that which were later proven untrue on this forum. " Licata's voice bounced all over the courtroom during the opening days of testimony back in late October. He was the principal speaker in a secretly recorded mob meeting at La Griglia, a North Jersey restaurant where members of the Philadelphia crime family met with leaders of the Gambino organization in May 2010 to talk about business. The taped conversation, made by Nicholas "Nicky Skins" Stefanelli -- a cooperator who later committed suicide -- was described by Assistant U.S. Attorney Frank Labor as a meeting of "the board of directors of organized crime." Licata's attorney, in his opening, begged to differ. "This was just a bunch of geriatric gangsters talking about the old days," said Christopher Warren. " http://www.fivefamiliesnyc.com/2012/12/scoops-licata-is-forgotten-gangster-at.htmlGiven today's developments, as of this very moment this is my prediction for verdicts (obviously the trial is not over). GuiltyLigambi Staino Mousie Georgie Canalichio Battaglini Not GuiltyLicata
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Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife? Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
[Re: Southphilly13]
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12/05/12 10:06 PM
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Dapper seriously did you just say Fazzini Not Guilty??? He plead guilty in October?? Please don't give your prediction for the Super Bowl... Oops your absolutely right, i completely forgot. i updated my prediction. I think the lack of sleep/too much work is getting to me. and for the superbowl i predict a giants repeat (if not then redskins)
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Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife? Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
[Re: spmob]
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12/10/12 10:56 AM
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Correct me if I am wrong but didn't your brother say something along the lines of, "I wanna crack his head open" when referring to Ralphie. And you and I both know nothing good goes on at the Ward. Doesn't help that he was already doing something like five years when this indictment came down. And correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Damion already have something like four serious priors already? I'm not judging your brother, SP13. I'm not even a Philly guy; I'm a Bronx guy. I'm just trying to look at this objectively because you're treating Dapper unfairly. Because the truth is, things don't look so good for your brother right now. I understand what it's like to have family in that courtroom. Believe me when I tell you that. I know how frustrating it can be. But Dapper didn't say anything out of line.
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