Hi all! Lately I have been reading alot of mob books (Five Families, Murder Machine for the 3rd time, For the sins of my father, etc). I recently read Victoria Gotti's book about her father and in it, it states that when her father passed away, he left her and her family barley any money. I find this very odd considering he was the Gambino boss for about 5-6 years and probably alot longer since he named his son and brother boss after his life sentence. I mean he must of raked in millions per year as boss and even alot when his family took over as boss. I heard he spent alot in prison for protection (not sure the truth behind that), but do you think she is just lieng or do you think Gotti was just a very heavy spender? Im not sure what to think. Thanks in advance

from 84 to 87 i worked for a guy who managed the book that handled all of johns bets. if you guys know who i mean dont say. its pretty common knowledge but still. one day i was having a beer with the 'controller' who was 'under' this guy. he let it slip that over the average week he took about three grand from 'one account' alone. the 'controller' was paid a salary plus paid a ten percent commision on all losing action that came through him or the half sheets he managed. do the math.

so appart from sports, there was poker [apparently he was aful.lol], craps, roulette,slots. now when he wasnt getting every last part of his life 'comped' or on 'the arm', he spent like no tomorrow. mercedes, suits,hand painted ties, shoes, jewelry, etc.

then remember all the family he has. he doesnt just keep a lot of money that comes to him. he wasnt a greedy boss, but he spent a lot of what he had.

then you have to look at victoria gotti. how much money is 'enough' for her? is she just saying that for pity? look at her house. look at juniors house. my opinion? its bullshit. the gottis and there kids are set for life.fact.

Yeah every major crime figure when they die there kids cry poor look at Meyer lanksy I thumb it was In five families when he died his daoughter claimed he left like 25 grand lol lansky had millions in the 40s that struck me as crazy lol

Think five families

jr gotti said his dad was always suspicious of the guy putting money away or not spending/trying to save money, what was his priorities, why was he doing that for? cause at the end of the day they are all going to get killed, or die in jail and the feds will seize your assets anyway.

yeah.lol. honestly all of gottis 'attempts at logic' sounded fucking retarded to me. that whole 'i dont lie bc i dont fear anyone',lol. pretty sound advice there john.lol.

Well said, sit...

They don't all end up like that, didn't Joe Massino have like $7 million in cash and gold bars stashed in his attic...?

i think i read all in all it was around ten million with assets.

and you are right. some can be like joe defede and only,lol.make 250 thousand a year. others like fat tony...just looking at which bosses left what behind,look at the chin. rental property, houses already paid for, restaurants, contracting companies, and the rest have two hundred grand plus from a 'sit-on-your-ass' job at the waterfront.not to mention material for a book.lol. having enough money to set your children and grandchildren up for life?thats being rich.

being a boss is like being a senator.your going to get paid better than most americans. your going to have influence and you get a lot of comps. but they dont all have the net worth of mitt romney.

Gotti Jr said that o. 60 min well put dude

That's because the Westside guys stress that you should buy property. It's all they talk about. Fat Tony, Larry Black, Cockeyed Nick, that entire generation of Genovese guys born in the early part of the 20th century left absolute fortunes behind.

Their grandchildren are out of the life (another thing stressed by the Westside is to not bring your children into this life), educated and living large today.

exactly, like the 'guy' you and i were just talking about. his son [not my father] owns a twenty two unit apartment building in staten island. it wad bought for a million eight hundred thousand in 1991. today, forget about it.

Yeah, I know who you mean. Like my 83 year old father always says, You can't count that kind of money. You have to weigh it .

jesus i remember when thoes 'money counter' machines came out.after i would make my 'stops' i would drop off everything at the 'bank'. this was maybe one of the biggest banks in the neighborhood. the 'guy' i mentioned was a partner in it for a third. the other two 'partners' were very, i mean very 'heavy' guys. when they first bought machines to count the bills [and later coins], they had to rent out the entire forst and second floor the machines were so loud. literally they had three machines running twenty hours a day. not to mention the coins. i remember using a hydrolic jack to put a box of coins into the back of a truck. it must have weighed four hundred pounds.lol.

When Gotti told gigante he made Jr. He said that's to bad lol...even though Andrew got involved lada but was never made

There are exceptions. One of the Esposito kids got his button, too. But as a rule the Westside guys try to steer their kids away from the life.

Oh yeah I agree don't no much about ny accept for what I read...I've been reading.g here for literally over 2 yrs an ivy your good lol u got any questions about Boston dont hesitate please ask...up do the same anyone reading an wants to be a member of these boards should read an pay attention for a while before signing up..I learned just by reading ppl like ivy an pizzaboy

Thanks, buddy. And welcome to the boards .

Sorry for the grammar lol all done from the Droid...an I'm st work lol

No prob dude check out my Boston thread its pretty good lol

No problem, kid. I'll take bad grammar over a wannabe douchebag any day .

lol. at your quotes pizza, everytime i think about george screaming out the window, 'these pretzels are making me thirsty!!!'lol.

did joe zitos kid get made? or am i thinking of joe dente.? who disrespected 'e' and is got bumped down? i think its dente actually now.

Dente got bumped down or his son?

Little Joe D lives upstate now.

Talk about leaving fortunes behind. His old man put more people in the movie business than Sam Goldwyn .

Joe Dente Sr. has been dead for over 15 years.

That's what I thought. I was confused because I thought joe dente jr was capo and I've heard from ivy he mightve gotten bumped down

i remember being told he [the son] disrespected 'e.' during a sit.and lost his stripes. lol.thats the truth about sr. though aint it? other than pesci, didnt he have frank vincent, and whats his name mickey rourke? maybe im just going senile.lol

Cathy Moriarty, Joe Pesci, Frank Vincent. Plus, he was the go-to guy for getting all the stage hands and stuntmen work in New York (and later in L.A.).

If "Raging Bull" didn't get ripped off for Best Picture, Scorsese would have have had to thank Joe at the Oscars .

lol! '...and finally id like to thank a freind of ou-mine...joe d.'lol.

Lol I got a quick question for you pizza an sitonmyface....wats gottis rep on the street today or even when he died u think certain ppl were pissed about his bullshit...I honestly think massino said it right "john set this thing back 100 yrs"