^^^ Never mind that. Sometimes Pinot Grigio doesn't make me as witty as I think I am when I re-read my posts.

lol.i agree one hundred percent. i mean techinacally [i know i cant spell give me a break] you cant smoke in any nyc parks, colleges, restaurants, bars, etcetera. but come on. on the 'promenade'?lol. its like smoking in central park. plus it was windy. i was sitting on a bench minding my business. fuck that guy he got what he deserved. i only wish i could have put my cigarette out in his retina.

thats funny at lowes.lol. ive never hit a guy at lowes.lol. my best 'public' lack of judgement.lol, had to be about twenty years ago a friend and i got into a fight with a car load of kids in there twenties outside a liquor store in nassau. lol. i did get arrested for that.lol. i still remember these cops had me sitting at this desk in what looked like a squad room of somekind while they surrounded this tv set where they were playing the tapes from the liquor store cameras. i remember some plain clothes guy walks over and pats me on the back and tells me im a mean son of a bitch.lol. thank god the judge understood that by repeatedly kicking one kid in his gut i was only doing my civic duty.lol.and he let us all plead to assault. thank god all he did was look at the incedent report and not the tapes. i would still like to see those things.lol. probably in some cops basement to show his buddys at next weeks poker game.lol.

but i get where your coming from with the anger problems. ill be the first to admit i can be 'a little high spirited' at times.lol.

What a boring a trial it cracks me up I wish one of the loud mouth reporters would make the public aware of the money spent on this stupid case. Albo seems to be quite a jerkoff they give him $25K to move what's that going to last him a month if he's lucky with all the bad habits he has?

That would be an interesting situation....

I am started to get swayed on this trial. Could some of these guys actually get off? I wonder when they are going to bring evidence against Scoops?

The Tropicana ain't bad. I actually had one of my luckiest nights at the tables there. They have the IMAX Theatre too. Bunch of us got a nice buzz on and checked it out, they had a pretty cool 3d show there that day.

But the Borgata is still my favorite place to go when we're in AC. Didn't care for Revel at all. The place can't even pay it's bills yet and i read the other day they need another infusion of cash to meet it's financial obligations. The prices there are a joke too. I'll stick with the Borgata.

Watch Scoops get off and everyone else go away for 7 - 10 years that four-eyed fat ass has diarrhea of the mouth

Give it time, just wait till the feds unleash all the Nicky Skins tapes...



As of now, I still say guilty across the board ESPECIALLY for Borgesi.

What are talking about Don?? All the skins tapes are done??? You guys have no clue what your talking about. Now SPMOB is starting to get swayed. No shit. I told all of you guys to wait until all the evidence is out. And as far as Speedy Petey Albo, he lied to the FBI, that's y they didn't put him on the stand. There is nothing more on scoops! It's amazing that they can charge my brother with bookmaking n a poker machine when curt the guy who is running the machines doesn't even no him. Not to mention they have presented absolutely no evidence that my brother is a bookie. Here's the best. The gov gets this "so called" gambling expert on the stand and this idiot says that if you bet on a game, that your part of a bookmaking operation. So that means the gov should lock up every person in the world that bets. What a retard. N furthermore, they caught FBI agent (not even mentioning his name) in 3 lies on the stand. This case is a bunch of bs n they no it!!

Not guilty across the board.

This case was obviously rushed due to not having any murder evidence. Most reports from GA state that the jury looks bored during most of this, I've hear from people that went to the trial this is the case also. The rats have spent more time bad mouthing the other rats than they have the defendants it appears from all the reports I read. From a friend of one of the defendants who has been there in court often most of the jury are minorities and they do not seem to pleased when they hear the government is giving these informants money to gamble.

not guilty across the board is what im hoping for and maybe the feds can lock up some real criminals that are shooting up our streets...this case is about $100 gamblers who cant pay and some video poker machines, give me a break

poor Borgesi the guys been in the can for 10 plus and they keep saying the same stuff from the 1st trial...i hope all these guys walk

not to mention all the man hours and money it took to pay for this disgrace of a trial...a couple of NY wiseguys just walked because the informants were liars and they couldnt be called...sound familiar? i hope the same thing happens...i dont think these guys are choir boys but c'mon this whole trial has been a joke and the DA and State Polce should be ashamed of themselves for this mockery

What about Ligambi? Isn't he a "real" criminal in your opinion? Don't know about the others, but isn't this one a murderer for sure?

No he's not. His case was overturned in 1999.

I know it was, but do you actually believe he's innocent?

Whether he is or not who cares I don't think a lot of guys made good decisions back then and they either spilled their guts or took it at the chin. They could get away with it but never kept in mind that their is no statue of limitations on murder. I give him credit for raising his kids right and steering them away from the streets.

Skins was out recording for two-three years on the streets. Only thing that has been reported from his tapes is what the feds released to the public pre-trial as a warning shot. You guys dont think that with the access and the names this guy recorded the feds dont have much more juicy tapes by skins? As of now from what we know, Skins got Merlino, the Philly fam including the Jersey branch, John Gambino and crew, and Dinunzio in New England. It has already been said that the feds are finalizing other cases based on these tapes.To my knowledge (almost 100% sure) they have NOT played the Nicky Skins tapes at this trial as of yet. Why do you think that this trial is expected to last another six weeks regardless of the xmas holidays?

I still say guilty across the board, remember gambling, bookmaking, joker poker is ILLEGAL. They are going to be found guilty of something at least, regardless of they beat the RICO charge.

Just out of curiosity, what trial are u following?? The skins tapes are 100% done n over! I was in court n heard them already. How can u say guilty across the board?? All of the evidence isn't even presented yet?? U just sound stupid! SPMob said the same thing in the beginning. Oh their all guilty. The FBI agents are the nail in the coffin. Now he's changing his mind and saying some people are gonna walk. Like I said, come to court n listen to what's going. N this trial is not lasting another 6 weeks. If the DA is done presenting by this Thursday then this case will be over before Xmas.

innocent and not guilty are 2 different things and who cares like was stated above joe was in s philly working and raising his family both families and prospering...a ton of money spent by the government for what appears to be not much of a case

so they all ready played the tapes at trial and the philly paper and george a. blog big trial.net didnt write about the 5 hours meetings between the top gambino's and the top philly guys? this guy scoop must be sleeping at the table. i would think it would be a all day affair of these tape recordings about the structure of the familiys caught by there own voice proving there members by there own words, so the jury heard them and no one wrote anything but what the fbi leaked at a pretrial hearing 6 months ago. i thought george was wating to write a book just on the transcript of the meeting you never hear families meeting in groups like that nowadays. they wrote about joker poker for days and bent finger bum, and 5 dimes on the phillies.weak. atleast at the trial up nyc they had a serial killer boss who flipped come out to have the guy walk out a free man, massino never getting out and if he cant convict joel waverly there gonna kick his wife out to the street.

I wasnt in court and just know what has been reported in the media, since the coverage has been spotty at best for this trial then thats that. Since you said you were at the trial and they already played all the Skins tapes (which hasnt been talked about in the media). Anastasia and Dave S said its expected to last another six weeks so I am going off of that, I dont live in Philly so I cant attend the trial like you said you have done. If the tapes arent played at a later date then I know you were actually there, remains to be seen. People claim stuff on these boards all the time, look at imamobguy.

I still say guilty, Bent Finger Lou's testimony particularly against Borgesi was devastating. Regardless of how anybody on these boards feels about the charges, gambling, loan sharking, taking over another joker poker company, ripping off union health care funds is ILLEGAL. Let me say it again, it is ILLEGAL. These guys are going to be found guilty, just watch. The only thing that they might be found not guilty on are the RICO charges, specifically connection to a pattern of racketeering activity related to an organization, that's it.

The thing is the feds had enough to take Ligambi down in 2001, two years after he took over for Merlino on the street. The feds CHOSE to let Ligambi stay on the street. They didn't take him down in the hope that somebody else would flip and pin some murder charges against these guys but so far that hasnt been the case.

I'm curious about Bent Fingers testimony against Borgesi. From what I read he is referring to things that happened with Borgesi before he went away over 10 years ago but as far as him running things for him after that, Borgesi is in jail and his phone calls are recorded but was there any tapes of him speaking with Bent Finger?

My friend ws at the trial and heard the Steffanelli tapes testimony and he said it was very damaging against the Philly guys.

Lou visited him in jail and was Borgesi's point person out on the streets, there was also a flipped Bonanno associate (bank robber) in jail with Borgesi who told the feds what Georgie told him

The guy who was in jail with George wasn't called cause he robbed 7 banks when he got out of jail. Not to mention he was caught in lies. Crooked toes testimony made no sense. He said he ran shit for George but only visited him 12 times in 8 years. Does that make sense?? N the fixer put everything right back on crooked toe. Fixer who was crooked toes boy said everything was his not George's. George has been in jail for 13 years in West Virginia. There was also another witness Mario Comorte who said crooked toe ran everything not George. GAs blog started after the skins tapes. Oh n by the way do u no that it's NOT a crime to be a made member. Trust me my brother is walking out the door in the next 2 weeks. They have presented absolutely no evidence on scoops. See what happened was GA reported that the skins tapes said things that really weren't said. GA reported many things that weren't true. Beating the Rico charge is the only thing we care about. The other charges are really nothing.

The machine company was bought LEGALLY! Wanna see the paperwork? If gambling is illegal then the whole world should be locked up. Come on r u serious with that one? Ripping off the union huh? Do u no that joe got that company the biggest account they have? Probably not. Like I said I don't have to prove I was there to u. N ur right loan sharing is a crime but don't forget there's a five year statue of limitations on that.

southphilly. whos your brother?

you can message me if you dont want it out there.

Come on you can't figure it out?

lol.i dont know any philly guys.out side of n.o. who i met about twenty five yrs ago. but he wasnt with philly yet.