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Re: Ghosts [Re: scarfacetm] #680072
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Originally Posted By: scarfacetm
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Thanks for the link Camarel.
I believe. There's to many pictures, videos, and eyewitness accounts for them to be fake
theres also plenty of photos, videos and eyewitness accounts of bigfoot and nessy, doesn't mean they're real


Exactly. The people who send in this so called evidence routinely get called out for photoshopping (proved by the exif data) or taking photos in dusty rooms saying the dust particles are orbs lol

Re: Ghosts [Re: Camarel] #680073
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Originally Posted By: Camarel
Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
Thanks for the link Camarel.
I believe. There's to many pictures, videos, and eyewitness accounts for them to be fake


Go on to the forums and everything gets debunked. The photos etc are always so vague like dots turning up which is just dust particles. Please give me a link to something you believe is real on that site.


Yeah funny how even though cameras and recorders are in HD now etc, any "ghost" or alien footage is grainy and blurry.

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Originally Posted By: Camarel
Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
Thanks for the link Camarel.
I believe. There's to many pictures, videos, and eyewitness accounts for them to be fake


Go on to the forums and everything gets debunked. The photos etc are always so vague like dots turning up which is just dust particles. Please give me a link to something you believe is real on that site.

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Re: Ghosts [Re: NickyScarfo] #680183
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Originally Posted By: NickyScarfo
Originally Posted By: Camarel
Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
Thanks for the link Camarel.
I believe. There's to many pictures, videos, and eyewitness accounts for them to be fake


Go on to the forums and everything gets debunked. The photos etc are always so vague like dots turning up which is just dust particles. Please give me a link to something you believe is real on that site.


Yeah funny how even though cameras and recorders are in HD now etc, any "ghost" or alien footage is grainy and blurry.


Yeah you're right. Another thing is when they tell you what you're supposed to see or hear if they hadn't you probably wouldn't have noticed anything it's called pareidolia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia

Re: Ghosts [Re: Toodoped] #680278
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....but the thing i wanted to say is...i think we all should pray for something to happend after death..cuz whats the point of been good or bad in life than?!but this is life long conversation


Life long conversation that is. I guess for me, it's that I know I'm not a self sufficient unit, that I know human beings need to live in communities to prosper and have comfortable lives while they can. So I'm trying to be a good citizen of the world and hope that everyone else comes to the same conclusion.


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Re: Ghosts [Re: afsaneh77] #680292
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Originally Posted By: afsaneh77
Originally Posted By: Toodoped
....but the thing i wanted to say is...i think we all should pray for something to happend after death..cuz whats the point of been good or bad in life than?!but this is life long conversation


Life long conversation that is. I guess for me, it's that I know I'm not a self sufficient unit, that I know human beings need to live in communities to prosper and have comfortable lives while they can. So I'm trying to be a good citizen of the world and hope that everyone else comes to the same conclusion.


Yes thats true,the point of been good in life is to live in communities to prosper and have comfortable lives.To keep the environment safety,for future generations.Thats called sacrifice.To sacrifice youre self for future prosper.Thats the real point not that when some1 dies and if he was a good man in life,hes goin to heaven?!Heaven and Hell exist on earth.But im not sure about the energy that lives on...cuz i belive in energy...cant find answers for that


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Re: Ghosts [Re: klydon1] #680301
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I don't believe in ghosts due to the spirits being racist. How come ghosts are always white eh?? whistle


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Re: Ghosts [Re: NickyEyes1] #680420
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My sister and BIL both told me accounts of their house being "haunted". Cool breezes in their bedroom; pressure on the bed, like someone sitting on the bed; their kids toys moving; BIL being hit on the head with actual visual wounds.

They only lived there a year - Westchester, PA - a few years later my BIL had business on that street and talked to a resident up the block. The resident said, "you lived in that house? we used to hear screaming coming from there."


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Re: Ghosts [Re: NickyEyes1] #680427
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Creepy. Westchester, PA is where Bam Margera's from

Re: Ghosts [Re: MaryCas] #680431
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Originally Posted By: MaryCas
My sister and BIL both told me accounts of their house being "haunted". Cool breezes in their bedroom; pressure on the bed, like someone sitting on the bed; their kids toys moving; BIL being hit on the head with actual visual wounds.

They only lived there a year - Westchester, PA - a few years later my BIL had business on that street and talked to a resident up the block. The resident said, "you lived in that house? we used to hear screaming coming from there."


My sister had been awakened by what appeared to be an apparition of a little girl in her bedroom on a couple of different occasions. She never said anything to anyone until one day she asked her daughter who recently got married and had moved out if she ever saw "anything unusual" in the house when she lived there. My niece told her "I saw a little girl playing in my room one night". She said she never said anything because she thought everyone would think she's nuts. My sister says all this happened at the same time one of her former foster children passed away while living with another family.

Re: Ghosts [Re: NickyEyes1] #680484
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I've been interested and wondered about this for decades. Some friends and I used to play with the Ouija board on a regular basis and got A LOT of material (Seth Speaks kinda stuff). But no predictions ever came true. But who's to say that spirits can predict the future any better than we can?

The closest to proof we came to was going to a friend's supposedly-haunted house (he claimed things would move around, drawers would open and close, etc); we took the Ouija board into his basement, using candles for light, and did a séance. We all nearly shit our pants, fleeing, when ALL the candles went out at once in the middle of it! eek

Not proof of anything, tho. But still curious.

I've probably watched every show/doc on the subject and still never saw anything convincing. I used to watch Paranormal State all the time, but nothing was ever captured. I never saw them as scam artists or liars, but still, they never got any proof either.

So who knows. Lack of proof doesn't mean something doesn't exist, it just means we haven't proven that it does exist -- with our current instruments and methodologies.

God has never been proven to exist, but a whole lot of people believe He does (as do I). Sometimes it just takes faith.



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Re: Ghosts [Re: J Geoff] #680488
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Originally Posted By: J Geoff
Lack of proof doesn't mean something doesn't exist, it just means we haven't proven that it does exist -- with our current instruments and methodologies.


I would add....with our current mental status also


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Re: Ghosts [Re: NickyEyes1] #680493
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I personally think Ouija boards only work because you're unconsciously moving the pointer it's called the ideomotor effect. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideomotor_phenomenon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMtuWymUzz4

I think for a psychic who uses the ouija in their profession to prove it's not the ideomotor they should blindfold themselves while using it to see if what they write makes any sense.

Re: Ghosts [Re: Camarel] #680509
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Though I readily admit there are many nutjob whackos out there who claim false or imagined stories regarding ghosts & supernatural BUT I will not close my mind to the possibility.

I have never lived in a haunted house or actually "seen" a ghost BUT I do believe there is a spirit world. My experiences have been more of "sensing" than seeing. Surely, nothing that can be proven but I am convinced that, how would Fox Mulder say it? "The Truth is out there?" grin


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Re: Ghosts [Re: NickyEyes1] #680545
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Why should there be ghosts?
And not, let's say, invisible gorillas?

Re: Ghosts [Re: J Geoff] #680576
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Originally Posted By: J Geoff

So who knows. Lack of proof doesn't mean something doesn't exist, it just means we haven't proven that it does exist -- with our current instruments and methodologies.

God has never been proven to exist, but a whole lot of people believe He does (as do I). Sometimes it just takes faith.


Even though I don't necessarily believe in God or a higher power, I agree with this. Faith is enough for a lot of people. Just not for me.


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Originally Posted By: Danito
Why should there be ghosts?
And not, let's say, invisible gorillas?


Yes Danito, but they live in the Congo. smile


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Re: Ghosts [Re: Camarel] #680643
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Originally Posted By: Camarel
I personally think Ouija boards only work because you're unconsciously moving the pointer it's called the ideomotor effect. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideomotor_phenomenon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMtuWymUzz4

I think for a psychic who uses the ouija in their profession to prove it's not the ideomotor they should blindfold themselves while using it to see if what they write makes any sense.


No psychic I've ever seen used a Ouija board for a reading. Not that I've been to a lot of psychics, either, but, they're not used for readings. wink

We did experiment with it back in the day, though, and concluded just this: I always seemed to know what it was going to say, so it needed my eyes. BUT, my friend, who had NO idea what it was going to say, seemed to be controlling it. No joke. At one point I had the tip of 1 little finger barely on the planchette -- with no way to actually control it if I wanted to -- but it always felt like it was out of my control and the planchette was being controlled by him. But all the words seemed to come out of my head. I never understood that.

Ideomotor? Perhaps. Physically possible? Not sure.....



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Originally Posted By: J Geoff
Originally Posted By: Camarel
I personally think Ouija boards only work because you're unconsciously moving the pointer it's called the ideomotor effect. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideomotor_phenomenon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMtuWymUzz4

I think for a psychic who uses the ouija in their profession to prove it's not the ideomotor they should blindfold themselves while using it to see if what they write makes any sense.


No psychic I've ever seen used a Ouija board for a reading. Not that I've been to a lot of psychics, either, but, they're not used for readings. wink

We did experiment with it back in the day, though, and concluded just this: I always seemed to know what it was going to say, so it needed my eyes. BUT, my friend, who had NO idea what it was going to say, seemed to be controlling it. No joke. At one point I had the tip of 1 little finger barely on the planchette -- with no way to actually control it if I wanted to -- but it always felt like it was out of my control and the planchette was being controlled by him. But all the words seemed to come out of my head. I never understood that.

Ideomotor? Perhaps. Physically possible? Not sure.....


Geoff thats strange so you friend was controlling one of your fingers lol


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