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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #675696
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Fox News election night coverage says it all...


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Pat Cadell (2nd from left) is like Dick Morris: a disgruntled former Democrat who finds some degree of solace by attacking the President at every opportunity.


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Originally Posted By: olivant
Interesting site. Given that some members of Congress are requesting information to find out what happened in Libya, how can Larouche et al come to any conclusions?


Don't tell me you are looking for actual reasons from batshit crazy people. tongue


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Originally Posted By: afsaneh77
Originally Posted By: olivant
Interesting site. Given that some members of Congress are requesting information to find out what happened in Libya, how can Larouche et al come to any conclusions?


Don't tell me you are looking for actual reasons from batshit crazy people. tongue

I gotta say, Afs. I'd be willing to bet big money that you're the only Iranian person in, well, Iran, who has ever uttered the words batshit crazy. This website is making you just silly with American vernacular grin.

"Take me to the America, G.I.! Clark Gable!" lol lol


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: pizzaboy] #675721
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NBC just named President Obama as projected winner in FL bringing his total EV to 332. smile



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Fox News reacts once again...




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Re: Election 2012 [Re: pizzaboy] #675731
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
I gotta say, Afs. I'd be willing to bet big money that you're the only Iranian person in, well, Iran, who has ever uttered the words batshit crazy. This website is making you just silly with American vernacular grin.

"Take me to the America, G.I.! Clark Gable!" lol lol


lol lol

Well, don't underestimate the Iranian youth, one of our entertainments is American/British series/movies and that's where we pick up these words. wink Nowadays we know more than just "Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday, Thursday, Sunday, Saturday." lol


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: pizzaboy] #675766
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Lol PB you made my day lol

And that moron just got re-elected in Minnesota. What the fuck is wrong with people? rolleyes mad


Same people who voted for a wrestler, a comedian, and once again a whackjob

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #675784
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Just re-read a really terrific read (and solid stocking stuffer for the history buff in your family) in CITIZEN-IN-CHIEF.

http://www.amazon.com/Citizen---Chief-Se...itizen+in+chief

Anyway as a book about Ex-Presidents it runs up to '08, when it documented the Dubya White House in its 2nd term involving the Dubya Presidential Library, which ultimately SMU down in Texas won the bid to be home to his presidential papers and museums and all that. (The book dismissed Presidential libraries in recent decades as "monuments to ego." lol) The book also documented Clinton's own questionable fundraising which may or may not involved kickbacks in his 2nd term. The number that shocked me was the Saudi Arabian government donating $10 million to his library as a "gift" to Clinton. Anyway a terrific read.

I would guess the Obama Library would go to Illinois, right? Hawaii have been actively campaigning for it too. Not that it matters ultimately.

Reading this article, does however remind me of Duke and Stanford more or less refusing to house Nixon's presidential papers because of faculty opposition which in retrospect in both cases was a very foolish decision.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/education/1...brary-idea.html

Re: Election 2012 [Re: olivant] #675801
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Originally Posted By: olivant
Pat Cadell (2nd from left) is like Dick Morris: a disgruntled former Democrat who finds some degree of solace by attacking the President at every opportunity.


Pat Cadell, Pat Buchanan and I have something in common: We all learned high school Latin from the same Jesuit teacher, Father Frank Bourbon, S.J. Buchanan and Cadell both said that Bourbon was the greatest teacher they ever had, and I concur. Buchanan wrote about him in one of his books.

Anyway, I mention this because Fr. Bourbon, scholar and raconteur without peer, would have been 86 today.

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Originally Posted By: klydon1
Originally Posted By: olivant
Pat Cadell (2nd from left) is like Dick Morris: a disgruntled former Democrat who finds some degree of solace by attacking the President at every opportunity.


Pat Cadell, Pat Buchanan and I have something in common: We all learned high school Latin from the same Jesuit teacher, Father Frank Bourbon, S.J. Buchanan and Cadell both said that Bourbon was the greatest teacher they ever had, and I concur. Buchanan wrote about him in one of his books.

Anyway, I mention this because Fr. Bourbon, scholar and raconteur without peer, would have been 86 today.


Besides agricola, the only Latin I remember was from my alter boy responses (et cum siritu tuo). I was taught by Christian Brothers (Darth Vader was based on Brother Leonard, a former Marine Drill Instructor) and one of our illustrious alums was none other than Dan Marino.


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Originally Posted By: olivant


Besides agricola, the only Latin I remember was from my alter boy responses (et cum siritu tuo). I was taught by Christian Brothers (Darth Vader was based on Brother Leonard, a former Marine Drill Instructor) and one of our illustrious alums was none other than Dan Marino.


Latin was probably the most useful class I took in high school.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #675861
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PB, my daughter saw that sign near our local post office.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #675879
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SC, that's hilarious! lol

Finally something from a conservative pundit that sounds more levelheaded and realistic.

The Party of Work
By DAVID BROOKS

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/09/opinion/brooks-the-party-of-work.html?src=me&ref=general


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: pizzaboy] #675886
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
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Win or lose the election is over. Some people need to let things go and move on.

Ain't gonna happen, Lilo. Some people are just fucking crazy.



Did you ever see the movie Shaolin Soccer? There's a scene in there where one of the heroes kicks the ball so hard that it goes to supersonic speed and morphs into a snarling globe of tiger fire. Nothing can stand before it!!

And then the other goalie calmly catches the ball like it's no big deal. lol
That's what just happened to the Republican Party. They brought everything they had and got handled. They need to try something different. Zooming off into conspiracy theories and racism, while likely temporarily soothing, won't help in the long term. Once they get this stuff out of their system (6 months, a year?) they might come back and build a winning team. But if they can't b/c as you say they are crazy we might be seeing the twilight of the party, nationally anyway.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #675923
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For what it's worth, I found people on a right-wing blog speculating about Rubio/Jindal/Martinez (any ticket combination with those 3 names) for '16, and well that would be something if they did nominate such a ticket. Won't happen, but it's a nice thought.

The problem with Governor Jindal is that if he does run, especially in the southern primaries, you just know one of his opponents will help feed a "is he a terrorist?/was he born in this country?" conspiracy meme against him. God knows they thought so with a black American with a funny foreign name, what will they do when they see Jindal's mug?

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You can bet the GOP will be building up the likes of Rubio/Jindal/Martinez. They have to do something to show they don't hate non-whites.

Speaking of Latinos, I can't think of his name but does anyone remember the Latino speaker at the Dem Convention? confused I don't remember if he was a mayor/governor or what BUT he was awesome. Reminded me much of when the President first spoke (as Senator Obama)years ago at the Dem. convention. I look for him to go places too.

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Re: Election 2012 [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #675983
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
You can bet the GOP will be building up the likes of Rubio/Jindal/Martinez. They have to do something to show they don't hate non-whites.

Speaking of Latinos, I can't think of his name but does anyone remember the Latino speaker at the Dem Convention? confused I don't remember if he was a mayor/governor or what BUT he was awesome. Reminded me much of when the President first spoke (as Senator Obama)years ago at the Dem. convention. I look for him to go places too.

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Julian Castro, Mayor of San Antonio.

As Peggy Noonan pointed out, although most people polled thought Romney could handle the economy better, they thought Obama cared more about them. That's the difference and talk radio is already doing nothing to help Republicans change that thought.


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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
You can bet the GOP will be building up the likes of Rubio/Jindal/Martinez. They have to do something to show they don't hate non-whites.

Speaking of Latinos, I can't think of his name but does anyone remember the Latino speaker at the Dem Convention? confused I don't remember if he was a mayor/governor or what BUT he was awesome. Reminded me much of when the President first spoke (as Senator Obama)years ago at the Dem. convention. I look for him to go places too.

TIS


The Dems, surprisingly, don't have what I guess one could call the minority bench ready for a national run in '16, unlike potentially the GOP.

I mean the top 3 named mentioned for the Dems in '16 (Hillary, Biden, Cuomo) are about as sour cream as you can get.

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Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO
I mean the top 3 named mentioned for the Dems in '16 (Hillary, Biden, Cuomo) are about as sour cream as you can get.

Absolutely, Ronnie. It's a given that Hillary and Biden are lily-white, but we Italian Americans are often seen as being more ethnic than that. But Cuomo is one of the most whitebread Italian Americans I've ever encountered.


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I must admit as an outsider, I know little to nothing about Cuomo except of course for his father and that he's very ambitious for a national run, more or less been padding his Gubernatorial record in preparation for it. Also (allegedly from what I understand) he got divorced because of infidelity. In that case, his wife cheating behind his back.

Oh God imagine Hillary/Cuomo primaries. That angle alone would be good fun in itself.

Am I missing anything else?

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Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO
Also (allegedly from what I understand) he got divorced because of infidelity. In that case, his wife cheating behind his back.

Good for nothing Kennedys. Even the women can't keep it in their pants.


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Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO
Am I missing anything else?


How about Julian Castro?


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I think the most interesting thing will be if Hillary and Biden both decide to run. The primaries could be the most awkward ever.

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Afs, I mentioned Julian Castro in a post above. I thought he was great (the little I know about him). smile

JL,

For some reason I don't see Biden as running but Clinton, tho she said not, I expect to run.



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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette


JL,

For some reason I don't see Biden as running but Clinton, tho she said not, I expect to run.


I don't know. Biden has pretty much straight out said he wants to run, and Clinton has said she isn't running. I'm not sure what Joe will do, but I'll be shocked if Hillary doesn't run.

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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
Afs, I mentioned Julian Castro in a post above. I thought he was great (the little I know about him). smile


Yeah, he was awesome. Of course GOP has Rubio, but for some reason they decided not to show his speech on TV, but show Clint Eastwood and the chair. lol


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Originally Posted By: Just Lou
I'll be shocked if Hillary doesn't run.


Me too. I think she is going to get in touch with her feminine side and make some cookies just to make that comment about staying at home, making cookies go away, but she will run.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: afsaneh77] #676006
11/11/12 03:28 PM
11/11/12 03:28 PM
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The Fuckin Doctor
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Biden-Hillary would make for an awkward old white person primary; I'll tell you that much whistle.


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