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Re: Election 2012 [Re: Dapper_Don] #674273
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Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don
I plan on voting tomorrow morning before I hop on the subway to get to the office, then I will absolutely refuse to talk/read anything related to the election (because I am tired of it) until I get home and watch the election coverage LOL.

Good luck tomorrow everybody.


Don't blame you man. This cycle was just 2 years but felt like 20.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #674274
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Good luck to both candidates. They're going to need it


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #674278
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I'll echo what somebody else earlier today said: Be nice to watch TV again and get my mindless sex and violence without political ads getting in the way.

For that matter, for most of us to get back to civilizing and chilling about mob movies or whatever.

Until the next political thing happens and we'll be jumping down each other's throat. But until then, let's have a nice break and enjoy Thanksgiving and Christmas and Kwanzaa.

(Whatever that is.)

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #674282
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New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo signed an emergency executive order allowing voters in New York to cast their ballots at any polling station in the state. The move will help voters affected by Hurricane Sandy to cast affidavit ballots outside their usual polling place. “We’re trying to do the best we can,” said Cuomo Monday. “We want everyone to vote.”

http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20121105...n#ixzz2BOP6Qoor

Who'll win that state isn't in doubt, but man that shit is going to be chaotic. Hopefully they can pull off this emergency measure without fucking up too much.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #674283
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Nate Silver is going all in. He has Obama's chances at 91.4% now. lol

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #674286
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Nate silver isn't exactly the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree. The last person I'd trust to predict this election is him.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: Just Lou] #674287
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Originally Posted By: Just Lou
Nate Silver is going all in. He has Obama's chances at 91.4% now. lol


On his little map graphic on his blog, he's now got Florida leaning Obama. And I have trouble accepting that. I know he's computing early voting totals in I guess, but I'm sorry I can't really buy that at the moment. But who knows?

Anyway Silver is on Colbert tonight.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: Just Lou] #674288
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That Nate. What a guy hu? wink

On another note, it seems Governor Christie was very happy when President Obama, who was on Air Force One, with The Boss handed the phone to Bruce. Christie got to talk to his longtime idol. He said it made him weep. Awwwww grin



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Re: Election 2012 [Re: 123JoeSchmo] #674290
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Originally Posted By: 123JoeSchmo
Nate silver isn't exactly the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree. The last person I'd trust to predict this election is him.


You would trust Dick Morris more?

Re: Election 2012 [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #674291
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The real problem is that people who vote for Mitt are like guys who date ugly women....they don't dare tell anyone that they are doing it. lol


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #674292
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Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO


On his little map graphic on his blog, he's now got Florida leaning Obama. And I have trouble accepting that. I know he's computing early voting totals in I guess, but I'm sorry I can't really buy that at the moment. But who knows?

Anyway Silver is on Colbert tonight.

Florida may get interesting. The voter suppression may be backfiring. Several reports state that voters are so mad down there at the Republican Governor for cutting early voting, they vow to wait online all day and night if necessary. You could have more Republican voters say "F" the wait tomorrow, than Democrats.

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Originally Posted By: fathersson
The real problem is that people who vote for Mitt are like guys who date ugly women....they don't dare tell anyone that they are doing it. lol


Fatherson read the "The Mystery Method"


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #674294
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Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO
Originally Posted By: 123JoeSchmo
Nate silver isn't exactly the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree. The last person I'd trust to predict this election is him.


You would trust Dick Morris more?



Haha not in a million years Ronnie lol Frankly both sides are spinning it this to the point where I don't trust anyone. Not even Rasmussen or RCP. I'm just gonna wait and see and whatever happens, happens.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #674295
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In '08, then-Republican Governor Charlie Crist extended Early Voting in Florida because of the overflooding lines. Which is good, I support encouragement of voting in a Democracy like ours where we regularly take it so much for granted, it treat it like fucking Jury Duty.

I know why assholes suppress votes. They obviously want to win, and if your ethics you leave at home like your keychain, but honestly you only do that if you're losing or you're afraid of losing. Democrats did it in Texas in 1960, maybe Illinois* too. Florida 2000 needed the Supreme Court. I've read an argument the same happened in Ohio by the GOP in '04.

Elections come and go. Presidents come and go. Your right to vote is eternal and guaranteed Constitutionally unless you're a covicted felon (which I sorta disagree with but I disgress) or a society just gives it up out of apathy.

Then again that would mean putting the belief of Democracy and Freedom above self partisanship, and unfortunately you're more likely to find a whore in a convent.

*=I say maybe only because many years ago I once read a study some amateur had done in comparing the voting rolls and he claimed that despite the legend of Mayor Daley getting graveyards to vote for JFK, it was more or less clean. So he claimed. Texas however, Nixon got screwed.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: Just Lou] #674298
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Originally Posted By: Just Lou
Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO


On his little map graphic on his blog, he's now got Florida leaning Obama. And I have trouble accepting that. I know he's computing early voting totals in I guess, but I'm sorry I can't really buy that at the moment. But who knows?

Anyway Silver is on Colbert tonight.

Florida may get interesting. The voter suppression may be backfiring. Several reports state that voters are so mad down there at the Republican Governor for cutting early voting, they vow to wait online all day and night if necessary. You could have more Republican voters say "F" the wait tomorrow, than Democrats.


There should not be long lines here in Florida because half the state has already voted.

The drama is in Miami/Dade, no surprise, no surprise, where the Obama constituents live anyway.

The Governor cut the number of days of early voting from 14 to 8. 8 is sufficient and I blame the people who waited until the very last day of early voting to create drama.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: Skinny_Vinny] #674299
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Originally Posted By: Skinny_Vinny


There should not be long lines here in Florida because half the state has already voted.


If the wait was up to 8 hours when 1/2 the state voted during the 8 days of early voting, explain to me how there will be no lines tomorrow when the other 1/2 of the state votes in 1 day.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: 123JoeSchmo] #674300
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Originally Posted By: 123JoeSchmo



Haha not in a million years Ronnie lol Frankly both sides are spinning it this to the point where I don't trust anyone. Not even Rasmussen or RCP. I'm just gonna wait and see and whatever happens, happens.[/quote]

I guess I'm testy about the shit Silver got was that 4 years ago, when FiveThirtyEight was starting to becoming known and just right before he became toast of the town and got that nice NYT gig, I e-mailed him a question about something I didn't understand and he actually replied, politely and thoroughly.

As a stat whiz, he could've been a total dick at my ignorance of statistics and show off his big Math Dick, but he didn't. And I appreciated that. Plus he seems to try to be legitimate with his ever evolving, self-correcting formulas. (And to be fair, he did great in '08, only getting Missouri wrong if I remember correctly and that was a razor-thin toss up state.)

Most of these pundits, I don't exactly get fired up defending them whenever they're criticized. Why should I? They're paid to be clowns and make (usually wrong) predictions on TV. They're grown ups. Silver was just some baseball nerd who made some cash selling a formula he devised for that and found himself trying to apply stats/math to elections as well, and found his knack. Good for him.

So yeah that's why I get pissy when somebody dismissed him as equal to useless sacks of shit like Hannity and Paul Begala. What do those two hacks offer other than propaganda for their army's sheep?

Re: Election 2012 [Re: Skinny_Vinny] #674302
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Originally Posted By: Skinny_Vinny


The Governor cut the number of days of early voting from 14 to 8. 8 is sufficient and I blame the people who waited until the very last day of early voting to create drama.


Why yes, your very favorite people at it again Skinny, our local Welsh Astronaut, always vigilant.

(Why cut it by 6 days? Why in such a contested election that surely would spark high voter turn-out? Why?)

Shit even Crist blasted Rick Scott for that decision. (Skinny, don't be predictable and dismiss Crist because of his alleged closet case homosexuality.)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/04..._n_2073661.html

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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #674304
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Hey Ronnie I hate sean hannity. The guys an arrogant prick. I just don't seem silver a much better alternative


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: Just Lou] #674315
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Originally Posted By: Just Lou
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There should not be long lines here in Florida because half the state has already voted.


If the wait was up to 8 hours when 1/2 the state voted during the 8 days of early voting, explain to me how there will be no lines tomorrow when the other 1/2 of the state votes in 1 day.


Thanks for responding Lou.

Several things. Mainly, early voting here is an absentee ballot. I showed up at the location and they asked for ID(which I have no problem doing although it's said to be "suppression"). I filled out paperwork and signed it. All early voters do. Then they had to print out a six page ballot, specifically for my congressional district.

Tomorrow's process is a little easier because there are more locations. You should not here about any problems.

People should not have waited until the last day of early voting. But they always do, if you give them 15 days or 8 days of early voting.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #674317
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The Truth About Voting Machines: What's Real And What's A Nutty Election Fraud Conspiracy

http://www.theawl.com/2012/11/the-truth-about-voting-machines

Re: Election 2012 [Re: Skinny_Vinny] #674319
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Originally Posted By: Skinny_Vinny
Originally Posted By: Just Lou
Originally Posted By: Skinny_Vinny


There should not be long lines here in Florida because half the state has already voted.


If the wait was up to 8 hours when 1/2 the state voted during the 8 days of early voting, explain to me how there will be no lines tomorrow when the other 1/2 of the state votes in 1 day.


Thanks for responding Lou.

Several things. Mainly, early voting here is an absentee ballot. I showed up at the location and they asked for ID(which I have no problem doing although it's said to be "suppression"). I filled out paperwork and signed it. All early voters do. Then they had to print out a six page ballot, specifically for my congressional district.

Tomorrow's process is a little easier because there are more locations. You should not here about any problems.

People should not have waited until the last day of early voting. But they always do, if you give them 15 days or 8 days of early voting.


Fair enough. We shall see. wink

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #674321
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Amusing anecdote: Apparently in Mass., Michael Dukakis is campaigning door by door for the local/state Democratic candidates. This detail caught my attention, however.

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Mr. Dukakis, who teaches at Northeastern University in Boston and loves mentoring young people, has also been helping fire up the troops who are canvassing for President Obama in New Hampshire. In a phone call to young Obama workers the other day, he offered tips on what to say as they went door to door.

And then he blurted out this: “I owe you all an apology,” he said as about 20 young people listened on speakerphone. “If I’d beaten Bush 1, you’d have never heard of Bush 2 and we wouldn’t be in this mess, so blame me.”


http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/...-for-democrats/

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The NH Town No One Cares About At Any Other Time poll results are good. Obama remains the only Democrat since Humphrey to win (or tie) in the town.

Oh and Political Wire today found this treasure gem that actually was printed on the eve of election 1972, for real.

"How Mcgovern Won The Presidency & Why The Polls Were Wrong"

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0345029...g=youwonnowwhat

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FLASHBACK: Election night 1948, the greatest upset. The first election covered by TV, in it's infancy.


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Finally November 6th is here. Why am I so invested in this election? I've no idea. lol


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I just want to vote and get this damn thing over with already.

Yesterday evening, in the space of an hour and a half, I was invaded by no less than four unwanted political phone calls. Some were robo-calls, some were actual people on the line.

I didn't give a damn.

They were intruding on my privacy.

They always manage to call around what they believe is your dinner time (deliberately), and after the first of these annoyances, I let my answering machine take the call. Or, I would pick up the telephone, and when I heard the recording or person on the other end, simply slam down the receiver.

Even though I am on the "Do Not Call" registry for my state (which is a fucking joke, believe me), you cannot opt out of, or avoid receiving political annoyance calls. WHY???? mad

If I spend another sleepless night - which is appearing more and more likely - I may try to get to local polling place early and, after I vote, come back home and get some well-deserved sleep.

Honestly, the older I get, the more I see elections as not voting for someone as much as voting against the other guy.

Some call it "the lesser of the two weasels", but I don't know anymore. Make of it what you will. ohwell


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If Germany was a US state, it would be safe Obama. 87% of the population woulf vote for Obama, 5% for Romney.
http://www.euronews.com/2012/11/05/obama-gets-election-thumbs-up-from-europeans/

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Originally Posted By: Signor Vitelli
Honestly, the older I get, the more I see elections as not voting for someone as much as voting against the other guy.


SV, this has been what I've been doing. It's just as important to vote against a candidate as it is to vote for a candidate. Imagine if Iranians were motivated to vote against Ahmadinejad. The world would've been better off. Many decided he is no different than the other guy 7 years ago. I'd like to know what they think now.

Anyway, happy voting and making a difference! I hope you get some sound sleep after this tiresome election season. smile


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6AM, and I just voted. I was second in line. smile

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