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Re: Election 2012 [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #671667
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
Who's on first?

Not common sense lol.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #671699
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If its a divorce that never went through, I'm still trying to figure out how that will be Trump's "major bombshell." Wow he maybe fucked around, wow maybe he worked too much, so much that divorce was considered but never went through back 2 Presidents ago.

In our lifetimes, especially in the aftermath of Bubba Era, this is some weaksauce scandalicious.

Anyway whatever it'll be (a bisexual coke dealer who almost got divorced maybe?), Mittens will run away from that shit like the plague.

Then MSNBC will replay ad nauseum that clip back in the primaries where Trump "endorsed" Mittens in person and shook hands. Fox News won't of course, and CNN...well who gives a shit about CNN?

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #671700
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As I understand it, Trump will tweet it NOT announce it on tv. Don't know if that means the media isn't interested in giving Trump airtime or what.

I'm wondering how it is that anyone can get a copy of anyone else's divorce (or any legal papers) papers. Is that in itself legal? confused




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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #671704
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Certain documents are public and a matter of public record. You just have to have the patience to look for them.

And if he did use coke at one time in his life (not saying he did), wasn't W the poster boy for rehab? Wasn't he a cokehead alcoholic?


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Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
Certain documents are public and a matter of public record. You just have to have the patience to look for them.

And if he did use coke at one time in his life (not saying he did), wasn't W the poster boy for rehab? Wasn't he a cokehead alcoholic?

as much as i'm not i fan of mr. obama, this is a solid point as old dubbya was known to be a fan of snowy nights

with that said, its no big secret that obama has used drugs in the past so it makes it all the more troublesome when he continues and by many accounts has ampted up the drug war, including many raids on medical marijuana facilities that were otherwise in compliance with existing state law, despite his promises to the contrary. i do realize that the president isn't in control of everything that goes on but the bottom line is that the buck stops at the white house, no matter what party, and they have a great deal of influence over which laws can be selectively enforced.

regardless of your feelings on the current drug war, an issue like this at the very least helps to illustrate the gap between politicians and ordinary citizens. to throw someone in jail and be able to justify it while you at the same time have dabbled in drugs is morally wrong! if our current president was caught with drugs its highly unlikely that he would have risen so high in politics, much less become president. seems like a serious double standard to me. (same for bush, although despite his run ins with the law, he was still some how able to trick his way into office thanks in no small part to the already very powerful political clout of his family


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #671711
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"... in compliance with state law ..."

How about out of compliance with federal law?


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #671719
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GOP senate candidate: Pregnancy from rape “is something that God intended”

http://www.salon.com/2012/10/24/gop_sena...t_god_intended/

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #671720
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Did Instrade get rigged today?

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With two weeks before the election, most political followers are glued to national and swing-state polls. But some junkies and journalists swear by Intrade, an online betting market where investors place money on the next president (among other things).

But this morning, something very weird happened on Intrade. Mitt Romney began the day trailing the president 60 to 40 (i.e.: his chance of winning was priced at 40%). Suddenly, Romney surged to 49%, and the president's stock collapsed, despite no game-changing news in the press. The consensus on Twitter seemed to be that somebody tried to manipulate the market.


http://www.theatlantic.com/business/arch...intrade/264000/

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #671723
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Hey, it was the '80s. What can we say?? cool

All kidding aside, the drug war is a joke. We've spent billions, perhaps trillions, since it started, and it has gotten us nowhere. When is someone going to grow the b**ls to say the politically INcorrect thing - that prison for recreational drug users is a waste? Spending the money on rehab would be much better spent. The court system is clogged with drug arrests, and it's a deplorable use of the public's money.

In 1970, 322,000 adults and just under 100,000 juveniles were arrested on drug charges. In 2007 (the last year posted on the Bureau of Justice Statistics' website), 1,645,500 adults and just under 200,000 juveniles were arrested on drug charges. How's the war going???? rolleyes

Sorry to go off on a rant, but the whole "war on drugs" thing makes me crazy.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #671730
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Trump is now saying he won't announce his bombshell on TV tomorrow. (Translation, Fox News told him to take a hike.)

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #671737
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Mitt Romney was heavily involved in the extremely messy divorce of one of his key supporters ... and the Boston Globe is going to court first thing Wednesday morning in an attempt to unseal the court file as well as lift a gag order ... TMZ has learned.

The divorce was between Staples co-founder Tom Stemberg and his first wife Maureen. We're told the divorce battle lasted for years and was extremely ugly.

Sources tell us Romney gave both a deposition in the divorce and testified in the trial. According to our sources, the Boston Globe got a tip that there was "juicy information about Romney" in the sealed documents.


source: TMZ

Re: Election 2012 [Re: Sicilian Babe] #671739
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Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
Hey, it was the '80s. What can we say?? cool

All kidding aside, the drug war is a joke. We've spent billions, perhaps trillions, since it started, and it has gotten us nowhere. When is someone going to grow the b**ls to say the politically INcorrect thing - that prison for recreational drug users is a waste? Spending the money on rehab would be much better spent. The court system is clogged with drug arrests, and it's a deplorable use of the public's money.



In 1970, 322,000 adults and just under 100,000 juveniles were arrested on drug charges. In 2007 (the last year posted on the Bureau of Justice Statistics' website), 1,645,500 adults and just under 200,000 juveniles were arrested on drug charges. How's the war going???? rolleyes

Sorry to go off on a rant, but the whole "war on drugs" thing makes me crazy.


Alot of that money I'm sure is spent real cushy while hunting down all the villians out there


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: Giancarlo] #671750
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Originally Posted By: Giancarlo
I think Trumps "Bombshell" is this one person that is claiming Obama used to use and sell coke in his college years. The Romney guys rejected the story but i think thats what Trump is talking about.

http://www.inquisitr.com/372821/trump-bo...cocaine-report/



I think Trump has nothing but a story that will make people say "Is that all there is?" Not that it will bother Trump, he probably hears it every time a girlfriend sees him with his pants off for first time.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #671782
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You know, I gotta give Allred that ambulance-chasing bitch credit. I thought she was chasing after shadows with the sealed court testimony, sorta like those mythical Mittens tax returns which after a epic struggle finally revealed nothing as I predicted. (And made Mittens silly for being so cagey about them in the first place, but nevermind.)

But this is a juicy read. (Your turn Mr. Trump.)

Mitt Romney Allegedly LIED in Court To Screw Over Friend's Wife

Mitt Romney LIED under oath when he testified in the divorce of his good friend and screwed the friend's wife out of a lot of money in the process ... so claims the ex-wife of Staples' founder TomStemberg.

Multiple sources connected with the divorce tell TMZ ... during Tom's uber nasty divorce case with ex-wife Maureen, Mitt Romney gave a deposition and testified during the trial that Staples was worth virtually nothing. Romney testified that the company was worth very little and Tom was a dreamer and "the dream continues."

Romney characterized the Staples stock as "overvalued," adding, "I didn't place a great deal of credibility in the forecast of the company's future."

Partly as a result of Romney's testimony, Maureen got relatively little in the divorce, but we're told just weeks after the divorce ended, Romney and Tom went to Goldman Sachs and cashed in THEIR stock for a fortune. Short story -- Romney allegedly lied to help his friend and screw the friend's wife over.

http://www.tmz.com#ixzz2AEUZWQHI

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #671785
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And Trump's big bombshell is offering to donate $5 million to charity if Obama released his college transcripts. More like a big disapointing, Troll-rific self-promoting stunt which worked. I like how even Fox News is "wtf?" over this.

Not exactly comparable to Allred's big (potential) score today.

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Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO
And Trump's big bombshell is offering to donate $5 million to charity if Obama released his college transcripts. More like a big disapointing, Troll-rific self-promoting stunt which worked. I like how even Fox News is "wtf?" over this.

Not exactly comparable to Allred's big (potential) score today.


Yeah Ronnie, i was just going to post that. What a pathetic grandstanding media whore that guy is.

Allred might be onto something if they can prove Romney lied to help his pal screw his exwife out of money. Should be interesting to see if the court will release the court records.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: Giancarlo] #671789
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Yea, what the hell? That's a bombshell? confused Mitt need not release his taxes but for God's sake PBO must release college record, passport(not to mention birth certificate) rolleyes

Is his ego that big?


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #671790
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
Is his ego that big?


To quote Trump himself "It's Huge!" lol

Re: Election 2012 [Re: Giancarlo] #671793
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Originally Posted By: Giancarlo


Allred might be onto something if they can prove Romney lied to help his pal screw his exwife out of money. Should be interesting to see if the court will release the court records.


We'll see. The Right will inevitably blame it on an angry ex-wife, yet to be fair such allegations fit into Mittens' profile as a parasite. For all the propaganda of what a successful capitalist he was, he's successful like the Mob or lottery winners or even prostitutes. Not like industrial tycoons like Bill Gates who went from a garage into King of the Unvierse, or Vince McMahon taking a Northeastern wrestling promotion and making WWWF (later WWF then WWE) into the biggest wrestling company in the world.

Both said men were ruthless (McMahon specifically is a sorry son of a bitch when you read accounts about him), yet I do admire how they both shaped the world into theirs, with the rest of us living in it. Steve Jobs in this regard also comes to mind. That aint Mittens.

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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #671799
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TMZ update:

We haven't heard back from the Romney campaign office -- however Mitt's attorney was quoted about the Stemberg divorce in Time magazine, saying ... “This is a decades-old divorce case in which Mitt Romney provided testimony as to the value of a company. He has no objection to letting the public see that testimony.”

9:49 AM PT -- A rep for Tom Stemberg also released a statement ... saying, "Over the past several years, the judge in this case has made it very clear that the gag order imposed should not be violated. We have never violated this order and will continue to adhere to the court’s ruling on this case."

Read more: http://www.tmz.com#ixzz2AEmEUfMn

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #671800
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new Gallup poll: Mittens still up by 3 in LV, but Obama's approval rating is 53% and now up 1 in RV.

Something about that poll doesn't make sense.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #671801
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Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO
new Gallup poll: Mittens still up by 3 in LV, but Obama's approval rating is 53% and now up 1 in RV.

Something about that poll doesn't make sense.


I don't totally understand it, BUT I hear some reports saying the reason for that is Mitt's high approval in Southern States. Yet, electoral votes still go to the President easily at this point.

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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #671864
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Independent voter here and first time posting in general discussion. Still undecided on who to vote for. I try to educate myself on politics best I can, but find I don't have time. Could anyone give some insight?


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Originally Posted By: 123JoeSchmo
Independent voter here and first time posting in general discussion. Still undecided on who to vote for. I try to educate myself on politics best I can, but find I don't have time. Could anyone give some insight?


Dont watch/listen to Fox News


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I don't Dap haha when they started putting people like Glenn Beck on the channel that's when I avoided it completely. But I also realize that news stations like NBC, and MSNBC are very biased towards the left. It's pne of the reasons why I'm independent in the first place. Both sides are guilty of bias in my mind.


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MSNBC has hosts that are BOTH Liberal (Rachel Maddow) and Conservative (Morning Joe)


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I recall FOX had Hannity and Colmes. But that was a joke. Sean Hannity is a smug little prick while Colmes is just a puppet for the left. Like I said, both sides are guilty of bias in my mind.


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Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO
new Gallup poll: Mittens still up by 3 in LV, but Obama's approval rating is 53% and now up 1 in RV.

Something about that poll doesn't make sense.


That was the first poll since debate #3. Obama went from -7 from before the debate, to -3 today. Tomorrow, most of the other polls will have post debate results too. Something is up on "Intrade" too. People have been dumping Romney stock all day long, and he is down almost 6%. Obama is up over 5%. Yesterday, Intrade had the election odds at 55-45 in favor of Obama. Tonight, it's 61%-39% Obama. That's a big one day increase. (for those not familiar with Intrade, you can buy or sell shares of each candidate with real money)

Edit: Holy crap. Romeny just jumped 3% and Obama fell 3% in less than 5 minutes. Today is more volatile than the Market. lol

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Where did you see the 61-39 percent in favor of Obama? The Fantasy Poll Channel?


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Originally Posted By: 123JoeSchmo
Where did you see the 61-39 percent in favor of Obama? The Fantasy Poll Channel?

Intrade. I guess you don't understand how it works. As I explained, it's has nothing to do with polls.

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