If im not mistaken Damion was already in Jail serving time for drugs for small time drug dealing which happens to be his second time but none of it was mob related. As far as Mousie is concerned maybe 20 years ago he caught a case but again not mob related. Im not disputing weather they sold drugs at one time for their own benifit or in Mousies case a previous mob but all im arguing is not under Ligambi. You dont investigate Ligambi for 13 years with 15000 tapes and have no mention of drugs in any of them. Believe me spmob im not blowing smoke up peoples ass on this board im talking from fact

Your talking fact? I don't see any proof. Not only do I know some of these people connected with what I speak of, I gave you an article. You have given me nothing but some old heads talking at a bar. What bar by the way? Maybe I have seen you there. Anyway, you sort of proved my point. Dame is a made guy who is in jail for drugs and Mousie is a made guy, involved in this trial, who has always been involved in drugs and is part of this ongoing investigation I am speaking of with RX pills. So what that its not a part of this case. My point is, it does happen and it happens more then you think. Especially associates with sports books, they do other things on the side to make a quick buck whether selling or financiy. It may not be part of this bull shit trial. Cause I do agree that loansharking and gambling are bull shit. But drug dealing mobsters are not a thing of the past.

spmob. exactly what im arguing. Not under Ligambi thats all im saying. And you probbably know what bar im talking about and yes you might have been there,and so far if you look back everthing i have mentioned that i heard or a friend of mine heard coming from that bar has been fact. And as far as that article is you cant believe everything you read especially coming from the FBIs mouth piece GA and then the feds listen to all the wire taps out there after the article comes out to see what people are saying. Also that aticle doesnt mean anything to me. You have your right to believe whatever you want as well as i do.

With all the money that they put out on teh streets they would have to be flat out blind in their hometown of s philly, where they all know one another and if they loaned it out to someone that dealt drugs, they know what is up, and dealing with the bike gangs and loaning out money, etc.

And also Damion catching a drug case in 2006 and sentenced in 2007 was never linked to Ligambi, wouldnt you think a made guy catching a drug rap would have led to the upper hierachy? Well it didnt and then didnt in this case, thats all im saying

Your right on point Merlino, especially knowing in the drug world they breed alot of rats

huge sentences with that real quick...Kaboni Savage and Red Rivera, Id like to know if they had any 2nd hand dealings with anyone connected S Philly because these guys were making millions in North Philly dealing heroin and they got life sentetnces, Heroin isn't leaving N Philly and unfortuanately is a huge cash cow there as the police turn a blind eye to its use

Merlino, believe me when i say this, those cases had a lot of rats in them and if the 2 top men had a chance to rat on the mob for lienance they would have and gotton pretty good deals

If they were gonna rat anyone out they would have informed on their suppliers and other drug traffickers considering the time they were both looking at including the pending death penalty case savage is now looking at as well. I think the only other group savage had to deal with was some black muslims who were extorting him for protection in the prisons for his associates.

Heroin in north philly and camden are normally brought in one fashion or another by the cartels.

And while Ligambi isn't directly involoved in Drugs, one of his top aids was in Massimino so it was done under is nose during his reign. And if you read the whole indictment you will notice that Dame was made around by Joe and then went off to Jail on Drug charges right after that. So he was dealing drugs as a made man under ligambi.

Billy aint gonna rat on Joe and that's why it didn't make this case.

Billy or one of his associates? Do we know which one? I respectfully disagree with the angles you took on those two. Damion has been in and out of drugs his whole life,and quite frankly i dont know him that well but mousie was a very sociable individual and would talk to anybody no matter what. We will see cause Billy had a 12 to 15 deal that he pleade to but now supposedly its off the table

Here is a quote from an article about the nick skins tapes where they talk about some of the guys being made:

"Five others, including codefendant Damion Canalichio, were inducted in an earlier ceremony, Licata says, noting that Canalichio was initiated shortly before he went to prison (the “can”) for a drug conviction."

So Joe made him after he was dealing drugs and knowing that he dealt while Joe was boss, acting or not. Damion always dealt in drugs.

Here is your quote



Damion is involved in booking/loansharking and drugs. So he finances using both. He also finances others. Billy McAndrews and Mousie have always worked together. Billy aint gonna rat out Joe and I doubt Billy told anyone that Mousie was financing his drug operation. So my only point is that there was drug dealing going on (whether outright or financing) while Joe was boss whether it is in this case or not. I know it is not. I read the entire indictment and superseding one. For you to say it was wrong of 22 to think that money they make of those rackets back up drug deals is just wrong. Some don’t some do, it’s the way the life it.

First of all the guys name is Billy Andrews and secondly Joe Ligambi wasnt charged with selling drugs so you cant just assume that he was. And if the feds had proof that he was with Damion they most certainly would have locked him up. You must agree that Damion might have been selling on his own without the endorsement of Mr. Ligambi

also i never said 22 was wrong,all i said is that it wasnt in this case or while Ligambi was boss. Maybe you should read again what i wrote.

Although I haven't seen Henry in about 10 years I grew up with him since we were kids. Typical lowlife, left his wife and 2 kids in the late 90's and started dating the wife of of the Grande brothers locked up (Scarfo crew) I'm not sure if the 2nd wife he speaks of that left him was her or not. He started to get a really big head like he was big time but really was just a low level bookie who gambled more than he took in.

Last I heard of him before this article he was living in Vegas. His testimony sounded very forced and you could tell he really didn't want to be there.

How did I read that wrong? Hes not wrong. Some do that.

Also, Joe endorsed Damion because he made him. He made him right before he got locked up for drugs. He knew he was selling and if you don't believe that you are defnitely naive pal.

And sorry I got Billy's last name wrong. My bad. Is that all you got. Your splitting hairs and have yet to show proof, just that you go to Chollie bears or wherever you old old heads gather and gossip about shit you don't know about. You keep bringing it back to this case. Its not my point. My point is that Joe knows that guys in his organization either sell or finance the selling of drugs. Do you understand now?

Anyway, the indictment as Joe as Acting boss with Joey being the real boss. And Joey dealt directly with Drugs. So dont act like theres some kind of drug ban in the mob. It doesn't happen.

Do you understand english PAL? I know more than you think you know and i personally know Mr Ligambi and i know he is not a drug dealer, was never indicted for drugs and THERE IS NO DRUGS IN THIS CASE!!! THERE IS NO DRUGS IN THIS CASE!!! THERE IS NO DRUGS IN THIS CASE!!! GEEZ I dont personally care what Joey was in dicted for but i do know one thing. JOEY IS NOT IN THIS CASE!! ONE MORE TIME! JOEY IS NOT IN THIS CASE!! GEEZ

And what proof do you have? An aticle by Mr gossip himself metioning Mousie as the backer for Billy Andrews. Did you even know the feds had Billies car wired for 6 months and his phone tapped for 3 months and guess what? NO PROOF THAT MOUSIE WAS INVOLVED, So maybe you can line up your facts

I know one thing I am true to everyone here and some things are the way i feel and i respect anybody that has a different opinion so for now im gona just back up for a few days

Looks like Nicky Skins also got Nicky Mita on tape and Tony Bananas wanted to whack Frank Sinatra

http://www.fivefamiliesnyc.com/2012/10/philly-mobster-wanted-to-kill-frank.html

Think Nicky Mita's gonna get hit when the hammer comes down in New York and Jersey Dap?

I wouldnt be surprised if he does get picked up for something. Since Skins was with the Gambinos, he probably had lots of daily interactions with NJ-based Gambinos.

You only think the Gambino's in Jersey will get picked up or is this headed to New York as well?

Yo Southphilly oldhead, i dont know why ya bother with some of these guys! Marone! Richie marra is at chester so is mikey rinaldi and joe rico. Joe runs the kitchen like its straight outta goodfellas, i got stuck in the kitchen for a month till i got moved to the law library as a clerk, real sweet job...me and joe were on the same block, stand up guy! Mikey runs the activities at the gym, hes really bitter about his case, he got a freakin life sentence for an allegeded murder conspiracy and the guy that did the actual shootin (dom depretoro) rattin him out!!! Richie is a stand up guy, he runs the tech room in the activities dept., he sits in this little room all day with like 3 freakin computers and his eyes are glued to the screen!! All three are at SCI chester next to that dump harrahs...*** So ya know ol' richie huh...his sister is still a looker for her age, lol. A shame how he allegedly caught that case, his 2 co-defendants beat the rap and richie took the pinch...allegedly all over a broad!!Joe, mikey, and richie keep to themselves and rarely talk to anyone but each other and other lifers...i got a pass beacause im 100% sicilian, they would break my balls all day about it..lol! Truley good times my friend. Well paisan, best of luck with ya and your attempts to talk some sense into these medigans!!!

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So if someone says they're 100% Sicilian, or 100% Italian, that means both they're parents are born in Sicily or Italy?
Here's some food for thought: if you go to Italy, guess what? You're 100% American.
Oh and there are no such words as ditsoon or medigans. But wait, DomCheech you're not trying to use racist remarks or call other posters dog shit are you? Cause that would be a no nicey for you!

LMFAO!!!

The lady is right. Refrain from using any racist terms on these boards. It's against the board rules.