SP you are right with the drug angle and with a lil research on 2 prominet drug lords of n philly who recently got life reds and savage, they would have rolled on some ol white Italian if there was any connection to bookmaking and supporting the drug racket...i am sure some wiseguys dabble in it, but that is an automatic death sentence when caught

And it wasn't a "way of life" in the Bronx that I grew up in?

Don't forget the big picture, Old Head: Philly mob = Small family. Barely relevant today.

I'm not a kid or a wannabe, Old Head. I'm a 53 year old Italian American who grew up in the Belmont section of the Bronx when the area was still strong with both wiseguys and Italians in general. And I still live in Throggs Neck today when we're not in Florida. I worked for Teamsters Local 813 for 25 years and I was a business agent for the last 7 of those years. My point is, I've already forgotten more about these guys than most people will ever know. And I'm not bragging because that's hardly something to brag about. I'm just stating a fact.

As far as your opinion, I respect it. And as I posted a few days ago, I like you. But please don't feel the need to tell me about a "way of Life" that I've been around since the day I was born. I find it condescending and so would you.

You know old head I've been on here quite awhile and never had one problem with anybody,I've gone out of my way to be nice and respectful but don't come off like some know it all.Who gives a crap whether anybody ratted or not,you can't tell me these guys don't fund things,like you said they did in the past.Scarfo and his guys with that big P2p bust in the mid-eighties.Do these guys check with you every move they make.joey and his guys involved with that guy from Boston.Borgesi didn't want to go that route because he knew the problems that drug-dealing creates.At one time these guys were kidnapping each others chemists.You think your the only one in the know.I don't appreciate being talked down to.If you don't like my opinion there's a civil way of letting me know.I never once said these guys were crap or jerks,I was simply stating that the Feds spend so much time on them because I feel like its more than just gambling and loan-sharking why they go after them.You can go back to EVERY one of my posts and I never said 1 negative thing about these guys.

Old head I just read Pizza Boy's comment and it sounds like mine,I'm 59 years old and I felt like he did.I think your taking this too personal,these are opinions,some stronger than others,but there is no need to get hostile.I always liked your comments and made a point to ask you questions,that's why I was so surprised about your comment.I'm not the enemy I hope they all get off,I have nothing against them.

Pizza Boy you couldn't be more right about that Frankie Flowers shooting.What are the odds of anybody further yet a mobster getting a murder case overthrown.What gets me when they tried him again it was the exact same witnesses and evidence but supposetley the juries were fed up with guys like Tommy Del and Nicky the Crow making a fortune off testifying for the government.It took all of 1 hr. to find him not guilty.Just because the judge made a small mistake by not saying Gino Milano had flipped and the lead prosecutor calling the mob ''a pack of wolves'' thats the basis for a new trial?He went from Graterford to Margate almost over night.Talk about a break.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day .

But thanks, 22 .

So then you agree with me that its a way of life Pizza boy, and i am older than you which doesnt mean anything other than the fact that ive forgotten more things about wiseguys that most people on these blogs write about but i always respect one opinions

Hey 22, you are a man and ive lived my whole life being respectful of everyones opinion. I am also 100% italian, if i came off too strong and offended you that was not my intention. to me though i thought by mentioning finacing drugs with this money being made of bookmaking and drug dealing that there was no evidence of that. As far as little Nicky and his crew were concerned that was a different story.

by the way Pizza Boy and 22 i am 62 and we sound like 3 good italian guys debating over a beer. PERONI beer of course on draft

Yeah don't worry about its all good,after I say what I say I think nothing of it,we will still share our thoughs,no problem.I know your a good man.

Thank you my friend

So nice seeing good guys getting along.

Now...would there be room for a swedish guy during discussions over a PERONI? Or do I have to bring my blonde, tall, swedish girlfriends with me?

Nah your good but you can bring them along,it never hurts,LOL

LOL

My thoughts exactly!!

I thought you sounded familiar pizza lol, took me awhile...........soliai

now Carmela, theres no need to be jealous of us Italians LOL

I heard George and Dave had a mob talk prepared but because of the content that got back quick like when e.g johnny changes wife didn't show up at the news stand that one day,,, Focusing on a few wiseguys out on the streets

Oldhead what did the buzzards at your corner watering hole say that there not doing it anymore because of George's Self-Inflated Sense of Self-Worth...I guess during the trial attorneys could give the station heat specially with some guys that are so called rising stars within the Philadelphia crime family but don't have a criminal record and know how to stay below the radar.

Pizzaboy almost broke a pixel hes snapping

Yes Dickie, fox didnt want to pay GA for his gossip work, he wanted to much money for his onesided opinions. Now the rumor is he might actually attempt to attack in his writings of course the government witnesses in the case cause people have had enough of his gov mouth piece aticles

yo southphilly oldhead, i like ya alot and i understand what your sayin about 'a way of life' down in SP. The thing is that this is a post about philly so naturally philly guys are gonna be attracted to this post. When an outsider has an opinion about the way things are run in SP it is easy for them to say lock these guys up and throw away the key, but when u know the idividuals involved and there families then its harder to say things like that. I know alot a south philly guys from doin over 3 years up state prison (mikey rinaldi-his co-defendant killed phil testa, richie marra-used to work for chickie narducci, joe rico-chicki chang's bodyguard, etc.) and i moved from kensington to south philly (10th & Morris) and met more guys in the street, im 100% paisano and I love SP. My point is that I respect ya and agree with your outlook on SP and dont worry about these other guys talkin out the side of there neck because if they knew what u or I knew about Joe n them they wouldnt be talkin like that.

FYI: mikey rinaldi, richie marra, and joe rico all have LIFE sentences

Hey Dom Cheech, thank you for your support,i know a man like you knows what they are talking about and when we sound off on these charges as just ordinary, people dont know what we mean. Richie Marra was a good guy growing up and remember the incident clearly like it was yesterday. It was over his girfriend, and im sure he is in chester a state prison right by the Harrahs in chester now renamed Harrahs in Philly

How can you say that mobsters don't finance drug deals? What about Massimino?

http://articles.philly.com/2011-08-15/ne...-federal-prison


And not the first or last time...especially for Massimino

Although I do agree that these are some dumb ass charges to go after especially when there are plenty of other issues in this city.You can gamble anywhere and credit card companies are just as bas as loan sharks.

I understand what your saying with Mousie but he was never charged with it and also Goerge (GOSSIP) Anastia wrote that story.

So it didn't happen?? Come on now? You and I both know Mousie is and was involved with Drugs. Um and Damion Canalichio was also. IM born and bred south philly so don't try and tell me that no Mobsters finance drug deals with there books. You and I both know better. They may not be drug dealers but they will put a guy on and finance him for a quick return. Its not uncommon at all. Whether its part of this case or not. And it was part of the last trial with Merlino.