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Do the U.S. and Italy families work together?
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09/07/12 03:39 PM
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Do the main bosses in the United States answer to the bosses in Italy? How does this work?
Sorry if this is a stupid question. Not really all that educated on this subject.
For example, if a guy fucked up over here bad, would the Italian families have any input on what should happen to him? Would the Italian families ever send someone over from Italy to take care of him?
Last edited by Wilson; 09/07/12 03:40 PM.
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Re: Do the U.S. and Italy families work together?
[Re: Wilson]
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09/07/12 04:40 PM
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Yeh American Crime, how many members and associates are there in the Sicilian faction?
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Re: Do the U.S. and Italy families work together?
[Re: Wilson]
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09/07/12 09:43 PM
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Do the main bosses in the United States answer to the bosses in Italy? How does this work?
Sorry if this is a stupid question. Not really all that educated on this subject.
For example, if a guy fucked up over here bad, would the Italian families have any input on what should happen to him? Would the Italian families ever send someone over from Italy to take care of him? Not anymore.The Italians dont need the US mob that much,they are more powerful
Last edited by Toodoped; 09/07/12 09:44 PM.
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Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
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Re: Do the U.S. and Italy families work together?
[Re: short841]
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09/08/12 11:45 AM
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Yeh American Crime, how many members and associates are there in the Sicilian faction? Noone really knows for sure. Cause they're so transient and alot divide their time between NY and Italy, I read. They've been there since the 1970s and deal mainly with the lucrative drug trade. They're an offshoot of the Inzerillo clan so I think there's a deal of collaboration between the two. A few are: * Giovanni (John) Gambino - Leader of the Sicilian faction * Rosario Gambino - Was eventually deported back to Sicily to face drug charges * Giuseppe (Joseph) Gambino - Youngest brother of the three. * Erasmo Gambino - Brother-in-law to the Gambino Brothers. * Frank Cali - While not born in Socily he's widely regarded to be the "ambassador to the Sicilian Mafia". They seem to regard him highly across the Atlantic. Also nephew of John Gambino. * Dominic Cefalu - Needs no real introduction. He was a former leader of the faction. He's now the boss. * Rosario Spatola - Salvatore Inzerillo's borther in law. Think he was deported and became a turncoat * Tommasso Buscetta - Came to America in the 60s. During the 70s and 80s he was reported to associate with the Sicilian Gambinos. Was deported after an arrest in 1983 and then subsequently turned pentito on the Mafia. Here are a few - Deaths Atrributed to CHG -* Pietro Inzerillo, Jr. - Identified as an associate by LE. was found in the trunk of a car in the parking lot of a Mount Laurel hotel in January 1982. * Sollena Brothers - Matteo and Salvatore, respectively. Also found in the trunks of cars in the early 80s Just a few I've counted
Last edited by AmericanCrime; 09/08/12 11:47 AM.
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Re: Do the U.S. and Italy families work together?
[Re: Wilson]
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09/08/12 11:59 AM
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Thanks for that AmericanCrime. They probably have atleast par to the amount of Bonanno Zip faction.
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Re: Do the U.S. and Italy families work together?
[Re: Wilson]
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09/08/12 12:32 PM
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*Frank Cali - While not born in Socily he's widely regarded to be the "ambassador to the Sicilian Mafia". They seem to regard him highly across the Atlantic. Also nephew of John Gambino.
*Dominic Cefalu - Needs no real introduction. He was a former leader of the faction. He's now the boss.
*Rosario Spatola - Salvatore Inzerillo's borther in law. Think he was deported and became a turncoat
Cali isn't a nephew of Gambino. I know many sites say he is but he isn't. He's Pietro Inzerillo's brother in law. The Pietro Inzerillo that is alive and a member of the Gambino's in NYC. Dominico Cefalu is the boss of the Gambino's. Dominic is his brother. Different Rosario Spatola. Not the one related to John Gambino. The Rosario Spatola that is related to Gambino did his time and now lives in NYC.
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Re: Do the U.S. and Italy families work together?
[Re: Giancarlo]
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09/08/12 12:58 PM
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And if we're really getting picky, it's Domenico Cefalu'. Not Dominic and not Dominico. I do believe your correct on that. My mistake. Also, that other Domenic is his cousin, not brother.
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Re: Do the U.S. and Italy families work together?
[Re: carmela]
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09/08/12 01:03 PM
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Italians, Sicilians in particular, want nothing to do with the Americans and vice versa. They are independent of one another. Sicilians don't trust anyone but themselves, for one thing. ^^^^ That's all anyone needs to know. End of thread.
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Re: Do the U.S. and Italy families work together?
[Re: Wilson]
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Also, that other Domenic is his cousin, not brother. Cousin? Ok, that makes sense. Seemed strange to me that a family would have a Dominic and a Domenico. Thanks for clearing that up. Another site is confused about Rosario Spatola. http://mafiatoday.com/general-breaking-news/rosario-spatola-former-mafia-henchman-has-died/The photo of Spatola is the Rosario Spatola related to John Gambino. But they have it confused. The Rosario Spatola that flipped died. The one related is still alive and in NY.
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Re: Do the U.S. and Italy families work together?
[Re: Giancarlo]
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09/09/12 06:30 PM
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Also, that other Domenic is his cousin, not brother. Cousin? Ok, that makes sense. Seemed strange to me that a family would have a Dominic and a Domenico. Thanks for clearing that up. Another site is confused about Rosario Spatola. http://mafiatoday.com/general-breaking-news/rosario-spatola-former-mafia-henchman-has-died/The photo of Spatola is the Rosario Spatola related to John Gambino. But they have it confused. The Rosario Spatola that flipped died. The one related is still alive and in NY. It's very confusing with the names, for sure, unless you know the family; especially when several cousins share the same name. This is how a lot of wrong info gets out there.
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Re: Do the U.S. and Italy families work together?
[Re: Jimmy_Two_Times]
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09/10/12 12:43 PM
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Any instances of where the US LCN worked overseas for the other side? Carmela has pointed out that the Sicilians probably woulnd't allow it, but what about the Camorra, Ndgraghetta, or the Sacra Corona? Well last time the Sicilians allowed it was in operation Old Bridge 2008 or 2009,remember?
Mongol General: Conan, what is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
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Re: Do the U.S. and Italy families work together?
[Re: Wilson]
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09/10/12 12:49 PM
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Jimmy Two Times, In Gomorrah its states brievly Camorra and US LCN. A man named Raffaele Barbato aka Rockerfeller who had gambling houses in New York and made contacts with US LCN. Rockerfeller had helped Augusto La Torre (the mafioso who operated in Aberdeen) sleep somewhere when he was in hiding.
"You shouldn’t be embarrassed by your wealth. This contempt for money is another trick by the rich to keep the poor without it" - Michael Corleone
"You don't have to count the dead to understand the business of the Camorra" Gomorrah, Roberto Saviano
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Re: Do the U.S. and Italy families work together?
[Re: carmela]
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09/10/12 02:02 PM
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Like most criminal group's in the world,that are giving an oath before getting in.Oath is big thing,for whatever purpouse
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Mongol General: Conan, what is best in life?
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Re: Do the U.S. and Italy families work together?
[Re: Giancarlo]
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09/13/12 12:27 PM
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carmela
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I was talking with a friend of mine about Cali and if he's blood related to the Gambino's. He told me that Cali's wife is Gambino's niece so that i guess would make Cali his nephew by marriage. But i always heard Pete Inzerillo was Gambino's cousin and since Cali is married to his sister wouldn't that make him Gambino's cousin thru marriage, not his nephew? This shit is confusing as hell. The way these guys inter marry really makes it hard to figure out. Just wanted to update and say i'm really not sure what the relationship is at this point. But i did read on an italian site that Cali's father was partners with one of the Adamita brothers in a video shop in Brooklyn years ao. All the Adamita's were big heroin guys. Cali's father was never arrested for it but his connection to the Adamita's makes me a little suspicous. Here is the article on Cali on the Italian news site. http://www.repubblica.it/2008/01/sezioni...oy-english.html Cali' is married to Rosaria and Rosaria is the sister of Pietro Inzerillo. Cali' is no blood relation to the Gambino's. The other thing that makes all these families in Italy, and coming from Italy, very confusing, is that the women don't change their last name over there, so it's sometimes hard to know if someone is related by marriage and who they're married to over there, unless you know the family. It's almost impossible to piece together.
Last edited by carmela; 09/13/12 12:40 PM.
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