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Re: State of the Families
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In 5 years wstch bostob be at the helm
raymond l.s.patrairca sr to u.s. state committee- " if i didnt have my case coming up ill to come back in here with two gentlemen and when this is over with and really lay down the law, yous guys been giving me nothing but alot of hookwhick and i wish i wasnt on trial and have this case and really tell the united states whats going on " Jerry Anguilo on wartime with winter hill - " If we got to war we got Joe Russo and the maverick boys so we have nothing to worry about they can go to vietnam and come back untouched "
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Re: State of the Families
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I didnt say detroit make more than the partraica but they do get the fair share and running you have to rmember camarel half of detroit gangsters for years now are sons and nephews through marriage or plane setting the marriage through mab affialation and long time members thats why there so tight and secretive and the other reasons are most of them are college grads with degrees and business legit businesses that covers up the gambling extortion union you know and if you didnt with all those fortune 500 and smart viscious wiseguys they stick to traditional ways of living omerta gamblin extorting union busting prostition .... See what happened to hoffa and you wonder why there so low key
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raymond l.s.patrairca sr to u.s. state committee- " if i didnt have my case coming up ill to come back in here with two gentlemen and when this is over with and really lay down the law, yous guys been giving me nothing but alot of hookwhick and i wish i wasnt on trial and have this case and really tell the united states whats going on " Jerry Anguilo on wartime with winter hill - " If we got to war we got Joe Russo and the maverick boys so we have nothing to worry about they can go to vietnam and come back untouched "
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Re: State of the Families
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Joeshmo u right in a sense its not that prov faction is more powerful but there smaller and more old school with politcal ties that are strong not easily exposed compared to boston and boston is wider more assocaites and wannabes theres revere east boston north end and couple other plaxes in amd right outside the city opposse to rhode island the one city state they call it and prov at one time was hard to inflatrate that to the late great ray sr. and being boston guy rich in historyamd alot of pure gangsters to the core 80%..but anguilo set a trend of accepting lack of respect amd discpling not through traditiobal mob ways but ways that start a trend of those outside the family with little or no ties do whatever to shockwave the administration and it took years to change that in boston where now respect is a must to even be in the same breathing room as family members or close assocaites of the familia
raymond l.s.patrairca sr to u.s. state committee- " if i didnt have my case coming up ill to come back in here with two gentlemen and when this is over with and really lay down the law, yous guys been giving me nothing but alot of hookwhick and i wish i wasnt on trial and have this case and really tell the united states whats going on " Jerry Anguilo on wartime with winter hill - " If we got to war we got Joe Russo and the maverick boys so we have nothing to worry about they can go to vietnam and come back untouched "
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Re: State of the Families
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thats the problem with these kinds of threads, nobody really knows for sure. as far as detroit is concerned, i really don't know much about them so i tend to take the word of scott d as he has researched them more than anyone else on here. scott, if you read this maybe you should start a thread "detroit family: myths, facts and realities" that goes into detail about detroit from how many made men, current operations/territory ect as its just one of those families where everything is unclear. it seems like there is always endless speculation on the midwest families like detroit, chicago and even to a lesser extent KC. What's your personal take on it?
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Re: State of the Families
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as far as detroit goes, as i said i'm not very familiar with them. my hypothesis would be that they are a small tight-knit family that is active but not even on the level of say philly or new england. sometimes on here i think secrecy gets confused with powerful. if a family is into many different rackets and make tons of money, that means exposure. are some families better at keeping things under the radar? yeah, but only to an extent.
im not in any way comparing detroit to the genovese family but everyone always talks about the secretive nature of that family, and that is true as compared to the other ny families to an extent but the fact remains there are a constant stream of cases involving them. my point being, that while you can certainly operate in a low key way, if you are involved in massive amounts of criminal activity there will be cases made against you. now i'm not saying the feds know everything, but the amount of cases brought against a family is generally a good barometer of the amount of activity that they are involved in.
again this is mostly speculation on my part so hopefully scott can help shed some light on detoit. That's exactly what i believe i think thhey're not as large or active as Chicago,Ne,Philly maybe even Nj.
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Re: State of the Families
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No way their equal with philly and ne with all the indicments recently. Equal to Luchesse Lucchese's are much stronger than the Outfit. They pass the Bonanno's and Colombo's in terms of organization at the top, but they don't have the numbers they used to. Chicago isn't on its way out by any means. I'd rank them the most powerful Family outside of New York. But they're not as powerful as the Lucchese Family.
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Re: State of the Families
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seems like some people underestimate them. Your opinion but i'd compare them to Bonnano/Luchesse If you're going to make bold statements like that please provide some statistics to back up your argument.
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