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Re: Do low level gang members even know who is boss?
[Re: Wilson]
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08/28/12 02:13 PM
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I've thought about this and with the crime families etc And I think they dont communicate with them but do know who is boss. Especially nowadays when you got the Internet
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Re: Do low level gang members even know who is boss?
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08/28/12 11:15 PM
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It depends on which street gangs are you referring to as the L.A gangs usually have no hierarchy but a collective structure, or are you referring to Chicago gangs which have an hierarchy. If you mean the latter , then you be amazed at the fact that Chicago's gangs are equal or more organized than any la cosa nostra family. Also, the members do know their leader by his nickname. street gangs are not even close to being more organized that mob famlies. If they were how do you explain the record numbers of street gang shootings in chicago
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Re: Do low level gang members even know who is boss?
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08/29/12 01:41 AM
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It depends on which street gangs are you referring to as the L.A gangs usually have no hierarchy but a collective structure, or are you referring to Chicago gangs which have an hierarchy. If you mean the latter , then you be amazed at the fact that Chicago's gangs are equal or more organized than any la cosa nostra family. Also, the members do know their leader by his nickname. Not even close, but you are being sarcastic right? If you're not what facts can you show us to illustrate your point? Any articles/date from LE to lend credence to your claim?
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Re: Do low level gang members even know who is boss?
[Re: Wilson]
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08/29/12 09:50 AM
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Nicky I remember that being mentioned but I can't see how that's possible in this day and age!
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Re: Do low level gang members even know who is boss?
[Re: Camarel]
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08/29/12 11:10 AM
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I think the Genovese is one family that will be very powerful for a long time. Especially since there are so few snitches in their organization. The Gambinos have a long history of having total fucking psychos in their ranks though So do the Bonannos Mirra,Pitera,Galante. Yeah, those guys also were demented
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Re: Do low level gang members even know who is boss?
[Re: Mussolini14]
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08/29/12 12:31 PM
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http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=9&ved=0CFcQFjAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fcaselaw.findlaw.com%2Fus-7th-circuit%2F1498390.html&ei=iT8-UKn2NcLj0QGZ1oHICw&usg=AFQjCNF9-VhhWdn4-ii2r2_BWCqwGO0QHg. Here's my source if it comes out correctly. There's more articles if you want me to show more. My example will be the black disciples street organization, which is organized by a King, Don, Board of Directors, Ministers, Co-ministers, First Demetrius, Enforcers, and Soldiers. At their peak, drug sales earned them $500,000 a day and they have use there money to invest businesses, including a record label that came out with the hit single " Cha Cha Slide". Most of the top largest Chicago street organizations have a similar structure and the shootings are due to factions in-fighting and of course rivalry.
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Re: Do low level gang members even know who is boss?
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08/29/12 03:36 PM
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I don't think mobsters are any more intelligent than gang members which both are basically the same thing. The only reason why street gangs get arrested more often is because of the drugs, it bring a lot of heat to anyone not just street gang members. Obviously the lowe level gang members know who the boss is, why do you think other wise? The most famous ones are usually the ones with the more weight on them, it's part of the drug game. Sorry i cant agree with you i was in a street gang and a so called pretty oragnized one @ that...Gang members dont get arrested becase they deal in drugs...well i mean they do get arrested for drug but sorry to say it but gang memebers rob a place get high then fall a sleep in the get away vehicle... gang members are pretty dumb MS13 extortes people who run tortilla stands maybe they get 2 or 3 bucks... from each stand ..... there is no rules in gangs for the most partt.... gangs arnt deadly... i quit my gang without any repercussion and could be ratting to whoever abou my Governor... and they wouldnt do shit... gangs are weak unorganized un displined crap...
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Re: Do low level gang members even know who is boss?
[Re: FrankGaglianoJR]
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08/29/12 03:37 PM
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let me rephrase i said gangs arnt deadly.... they can be very deadly however... what i meant was me quiting the gang and not having o be in the program etc etc.
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Re: Do low level gang members even know who is boss?
[Re: Camarel]
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08/29/12 05:14 PM
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another difference between the mafia and street gangs is that street gangs didnt start off as a criminal thing. they were mostly just little clubs that were defending there neighbourhoods, it wasnt till much later with when drugs were introduced into things that they started to organise into more of a criminal group, unlike the mafia who practically engaged in criminal activity from the get go when they arrived in america.
Another thing about gangs is that not every member of a gang that has 1000s of members is going equally involved in criminal activity or drug trafficking. Say if the gangster disciples have over 50,000 members the leader not going to be able to control all 50,000 its practically impossible. Thats why there are so many different sets.
heres some info i found on gang structures. All gangs have identifiable levels of membership. These levels of membership indicate status within a gang and acts as the organizational maintenance systems. There are actually six levels of gang structure.
1. Leadership: The leader(s) of a gang determines at what level of criminal activity the gang will function. Characteristics of the leader(s) are reflected in the day to day activities of the gang. The leader is all powerful.
2. Hard Core: The hard core gang members are usually the older gang members, the individuals who are culturally and criminally enmeshed in the gang and are at risk of being so for life. Most violent gang activity emanates from the hard core gang members. Hard core gang members usually make up about 10% of gang membership. 3. Associate: The associate gang member has usually made a personal commitment to the gang culture and is dedicated to achieving the level of recognition needed to attain hard core status.
4. Fringe: The fringe gang member is still able to function outside of the gang structure and has not made a commitment to a life in the criminal gang culture. This type of member drifts in and out of the gang and seems to lack direction.
5. Wanna-Bes: Wanna-bes are not actually gang members. They are youth who view the gang as an exciting place to be, a place where they could become "somebody". Wanna-bes may emulate gang dress, graffiti, hand signs, and other gang cultural symbols, and they may associate with known gang members, but they have not yet been excepted into the gang.
Cliques: Very seldom is the gang at full strength. Exceptions to this, of course, would be times of conflict or possibly at social functions. What is most often seen as "the gang" is usually a clique from within the larger gang. The clique is a group of associate, fringe, and often, wanna-be gang members who gravitate around one or more of the hard core gang members. This somewhat resembles a gang within a gang.
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Re: Do low level gang members even know who is boss?
[Re: Camarel]
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09/02/12 05:22 PM
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What gang where you from? I heard that New Orleans doesn't have gangs but crews. Not to be harsh or anything but you were probably a wannabe. He said he was in a street gang everywhere has street gangs you should use quote next time so people don't need to look through all the comments to know what you're talking about. I used the quote but it sometiems doesn't work or I at least I thought I did! It's true though New Orleans doesn't have gangs just crews of drug dealers, though I heard there was a small Blood gang presenc but for the most part it just crews.
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