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Who has more power... #662400
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who do you think has more power in a family, underboss or consigliere????

Re: Who has more power... [Re: NickyEyes1] #662401
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Well the underboss is tue boss when the boss isnt there but many charts hold the consig out beside the boss ajd thr underboss under the both of them

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Daniel who do you hold higher in rank in all the video games you play the consig or underboss?


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Originally Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti
Daniel who do you hold higher in rank in all the video games you play the consig or underboss?

This guy is missing a lot of keys on his keyboard recently, isn't he? lol

Re: Who has more power... [Re: NickyEyes1] #662524
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Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
who do you think has more power in a family, underboss or consigliere????


It depends imo there's been times when the Underboss has merely been a lieutenant to the boss for instance Sammy Gravano. There's also been times the Underboss has directly controlled crews like Delacrocce controlling crews in Manhattan. There was also the rare case of Casso who was more like a street boss.

The Consigliere position has also greatly changed it seems. It seems that in the 30s,40s the Consigliere was more like an advisor but now it's just an extra lieutenant .

Re: Who has more power... [Re: NickyEyes1] #662531
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I use a tablet and i hate the keyboard. Im not sure dicknose i value.them both very.much lol.

Re: Who has more power... [Re: LCN1987] #662534
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Originally Posted By: LCN1987
Originally Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti
Daniel who do you hold higher in rank in all the video games you play the consig or underboss?

This guy is missing a lot of keys on his keyboard recently, isn't he? lol


This guy has a tablet wooo weeee


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Re: Who has more power... [Re: NickyEyes1] #662539
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Is there a problem here?

Re: Who has more power... [Re: NickyEyes1] #662540
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Is there a problem here?

Re: Who has more power... [Re: danielperrygin] #662656
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Originally Posted By: danielperrygin
Is there a problem here?

Not with me smile

Re: Who has more power... [Re: NickyEyes1] #662661
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Naw dicknose has been all over me lately

Re: Who has more power... [Re: NickyEyes1] #662671
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I wouldn't be to worried about it perrygin...nobody pays to much attention to him anyway. Its hard enough reading his posts let alone understanding his "jokes".

Re: Who has more power... [Re: NickyEyes1] #662677
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why did my comment get deleted

Re: Who has more power... [Re: NickyEyes1] #662679
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Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
why did my comment get deleted


Because it was a rude and flaming remark. You're new here; don't start on the wrong foot.


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Re: Who has more power... [Re: NickyEyes1] #662683
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ok sorry

Re: Who has more power... [Re: NickyEyes1] #662718
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Om me nicky

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Re: Who has more power... [Re: NickyEyes1] #662722
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i'd say consigliere because he's usually someone trusted by the boss

Re: Who has more power... [Re: danielperrygin] #662744
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Originally Posted By: danielperrygin
Is there a problem here?


No Problem..With the post being an open-ended question I didn't understand the post.


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Re: Who has more power... [Re: NickyEyes1] #662764
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Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
i'd say consigliere because he's usually someone trusted by the boss


Actually, except for the Castellano/Dellacroce/Gallo set up, the underboss is usually the boss´s closest confidant, his alter ego and the one who is handpicked by the boss to serve as his second. The consigliere is elected by all the members of the Family and acts as an advisor to all of them. Because of the consigliere´s popularity with the troops, and the fact that a boss cannot remove him from his position unless the captains demands it, his power can reach enormous proportions.

So to answer this topic´s question, it depends on the consigliere´s ability or skill to maintain the member´s confidence in him. If he´s not able to do that, the underboss, because of his closeness to the boss, will surely outpower him.


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Originally Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti
Originally Posted By: danielperrygin
Is there a problem here?


No Problem..With the post being an open-ended question I didn't understand the post.

its a pretty simple question....

Re: Who has more power... [Re: HairyKnuckles] #662927
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But nowadays Hairy, a Consigliere wont be as powerful since being elected isnt done anymore, its just another old position which is there to fill in the ranks.


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Originally Posted By: short841
But nowadays Hairy, a Consigliere wont be as powerful since being elected isnt done anymore, its just another old position which is there to fill in the ranks.


Agreed i think it all depends on the consigliere/underbosses relationship with the boss .

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I don't have the time to spare right now, but the best way to look at this would be to look at real world figures. Past Gravano and Dellacroce, all the other mob administration members throughout the years, and then conclude.

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who's sucking the bosses nuts most of the time?!?...thats the most powerful one!(except in casso's case)


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Originally Posted By: Toodoped
who's sucking the bosses nuts most of the time?!?...thats the most powerful one!)


Tommy on RD? (oops did I say that out loud? blush )


La madre degli idioti e' sempre incinta.

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Originally Posted By: short841
But nowadays Hairy, a Consigliere wont be as powerful since being elected isnt done anymore, its just another old position which is there to fill in the ranks.


Yes. If the functions of the consigliere, and the traditions with regards to the position, has been lost the last 20 or 30 years (and I do believe they have) then the underboss position is more powerful today.


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Originally Posted By: carmela
Originally Posted By: Toodoped
who's sucking the bosses nuts most of the time?!?...thats the most powerful one!)


Tommy on RD? (oops did I say that out loud? blush )


something like that tongue wink

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Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
Re: Who has more power... [Re: NickyEyes1] #663052
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Yeh Hairy. I totally agree with you.


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wow, did not know that Hairy, thanks for the info!

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