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Mafia influence on movie industry #662352
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I noticed even though there were many movies throughout the American history that featured mobsters, before "The Godfather" there doesn't seem to be many of them with mobsters having Italian surnames, even when the movie was inspired by real stories. For example, Lucky Luciano in "The marked woman" is called Johnny Vanning, in the series "Cain's hundred" about a mob lawyer in the 60s most of them have Anglo-Saxon surnames like Cook, Braddock, Norman etc. and I read that in a series about the FBI they had to cut out all the Italian names because of a complaint by Joe Colombo. There are many other examples, I just don't remember all of them. Did the mafia really give that much importance to this? I mean, is it possible the mafia paid the whole movie industry not to portray them accurately? That doesn't seem to make much sense, but why else no allusion to Italians in the movies?


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Re: Mafia influence on movie industry [Re: Dwalin2011] #662382
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In the 40s there was a case involving the outfit in which they had controll over movie productions threw the unions and even could tell theats across the country.what to charge for a movie i have read. This case involved the entire leadership and they all "asked" nitti to take the fall, be went to watch the trains not long after. I am really interested in getting really into that case, it was a nation wide criminal conspiracy

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Through IACRL, Joe Colombo was also able to stop the use of the word "Mafia" being mentioned in the Godfather movie.

Prior to "The Godfather", to my knowledge, there was only one pure Mafia movie, the filmatisation of Valachi´s "The Valachi Papers" which flopped big time. So Mafia movies were not in demand until "The Godfather" paved the way. Of course, the characters in Mafia movies post "The Godfather", were mostly based on Italians.


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Saw that documentary about the The Godfather and the Mob. And yeh Colombo stopped the word Mafia being used in the script but it was only mentioned once and that was at the begininng scene!


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Saw that documentary about the The Godfather and the Mob. And yeh Colombo stopped the word Mafia being used in the script but it was only mentioned once and that was at the begininng scene!


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Re: Mafia influence on movie industry [Re: Dwalin2011] #662521
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The Chicago Outfit had a lot influence on the movie industry in the late 40's and early 50's


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Re: Mafia influence on movie industry [Re: HairyKnuckles] #662525
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Originally Posted By: HairyKnuckles
Through IACRL, Joe Colombo was also able to stop the use of the word "Mafia" being mentioned in the Godfather movie.

Prior to "The Godfather", to my knowledge, there was only one pure Mafia movie, the filmatisation of Valachi´s "The Valachi Papers" which flopped big time. So Mafia movies were not in demand until "The Godfather" paved the way. Of course, the characters in Mafia movies post "The Godfather", were mostly based on Italians.


The Valachi Papers isn't that bad a film imo it kinda cheesy but it's the best mafia movie i've seen set in that time .

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Originally Posted By: short841
Saw that documentary about the The Godfather and the Mob. And yeh Colombo stopped the word Mafia being used in the script but it was only mentioned once and that was at the begininng scene!


When was it used i can't remember ?

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In boston from late until lately local 25 in charlestown the local know for hiring mob member or assocaites and was a bunch indictmints grand jury anyways they didnt let no movie film in boston the filming crew rented from that union for a while u noticed only certain movies was mad in boston amd the area mostly independent films....its crazy cause now that whole bunch of movies been made and being made in boston all using local 25 equipment and also using boston based actors funny alot of them are from southie dorchester or charlestown area


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Part from an srticle written by Clarence Walker

When Thomas Edison invented the motion picture camera and projector he created the Motion Picture Patents Company called the 'Trust' to make movies based on Christian American values. But on the Lower East Side, Jewish entrepreneurs used Edison's invention to make their own films which were shown in thousands of five-cent Nickelodian movie theaters across the United States.

The Jewish outlaw filmmakers made movies with violent, sexy content, far more entertaining than Edison's wholesome, purified movies. Furious over the rip-off, Edison, with help from police acting on a city ordinance in Chicago, ordering the Jewish theaters closed down, fire and bloodshed followed.

A goon squad hired by Edison beat up directors, actors, forcing movie-goers out of theaters and set fires to city blocks where the so-called immoral movies were playing. Apparently Edison underestimated his competition. Gangsters "Big" Jack Zelig, "Lefty Louie" Rosenberg, "Gyp the Blood" Horowitz, and leaders of the notorious Yiddish Black hand stepped in to eliminate Edison and the city enforcement attempt to prevent their people from running movie theaters.

The war continued. Gangsters stole expensive film equipment out of Edison's warehouses in the Bronx, Philadelphia and Chicago and then ignited a fire that grew into a raging inferno that destroyed the properties.

By 1915 the Edison 'Trust' group disbanded and the Jewish outlaw filmmakers moved west, where they made bigger and better movies. The outlaws, with the help of their nicknamed friends, were assisted by another group of Jewish gangsters that helped them to dismantle Thomas Edison and the city laws of Chicago and won.

Who were these mighty men? Do these names ring a bell in today's motion picture industry? Here they are:

(1) Marcus Loews of Loews Theatres and Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer

(2) Carl Laemmle of Universal Pictures

(3) Adolph Zukor of Paramount Pictures

(4) William Fox of Twentieth-Century Fox

(5) The Warner brothers, Harry, Albert, Sam and Jack.

Slavery, Racism, Interracial Sex, and the Mafia

During mid-19th century, concert saloons gained popularity in U.S. cities. These breezy places with swinging doors offered liquor, music, lewd dancing, and sex for sale. High on the list was sex between blacks and whites. Several salons in larger northern cities was owned by crime syndicates, blacks with mob front money, Italian and Jewish immigrants affiliated with the mob.

Even during Jim Crow segregated laws when the lynching of blacks was a weekly event, thousands of black men had sex with white women in brothels. It is reasonable to conclude that organized crime fronted these places with 'dirty' money.

The mixing of races in dance halls owned by Jewish and Italian crime syndicates was so prevalent the Ku Klux Klan waged fierce opposition to close these lurid places down. If owners failed to comply with local government regulations the KKK burned down the establishment. But nothing stopped progress to make a buck through mixing races. Organized crime re-grouped and started over again.


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