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Re: Salvatore Montagna
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08/26/12 11:21 PM
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Don't forget that old man arcuri was with violi/ cotroni before rizzuto takeover and giacinto is very close with ndrageta of Ontario. Old man arcuri accepted the rizzuto transition but never betrayed violi. Rumors were that he would be handed st.leonard from violi after his death but instead went to [BadWord]. Point is they were passed over. They weren't even given more power after Vito went to jail. They were still part of the giving end and not receiving end. They weren't part of the consenza bar consensus of Arcadi/Renda/rizzuto etc.. They wanted power and felt it was their time. It wasn't about money because they have millions. Especially in construction and real estate. That's very accurate and sounds most familiar to what some people in Montreal have told me. It also proves the conflict has been two-fold and what were seeing now is a battle for what's left. I still don't think Vito will be come back alive
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Re: Salvatore Montagna
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08/26/12 11:23 PM
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Point is they were passed over. They weren't even given more power after Vito went to jail. They were still part of the giving end and not receiving end. Domenico Sr. was awarded Violi's ice cream businesses, which I'm sure added a big revenue to his finances. Anyway, if you think they killed his son, what do you know about Tony Mucci's role? Tony Magi, who is thought to have been behind the murder, has a bodyguard who shared the same residence with one of Tony Mucci's bodyguards. This made me believe Mucci was part of the conspiracy as well. Also, how did the Cun trera family in Toronto (Big Joe) reacted to Agostino's death? Were they consulted beforehand? And has Joe Renda's murder have anything to do with Agostino's murder? Apparantly, Renda had a meeting with a Cun trera shortly before he disappeared. Whether what you say is true or not, it seems like you have your ear to the street.
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Re: Salvatore Montagna
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08/26/12 11:28 PM
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Point is they were passed over. They weren't even given more power after Vito went to jail. They were still part of the giving end and not receiving end. Domenico Sr. was awarded Violi's ice cream businesses, which I'm sure added a big revenue to his finances. Anyway, if you think they killed his son, what do you know about Tony Mucci's role? Tony Magi, who is thought to have been behind the murder, has a bodyguard who shared the same residence with one of Tony Mucci's bodyguards. This made me believe Mucci was part of the conspiracy as well. Also, how did the Cun trera family in Toronto (Big Joe) reacted to Agostino's death? Were they consulted beforehand? And has Joe Renda's murder have anything to do with Agostino's murder? Apparantly, Renda had a meeting with a Cun trera shortly before he disappeared. Whether what you say is true or not, it seems like you have your ear to the street. Italgelati is only but a small portion of what the Arcuri's really wanted and like he said, they weren't part of the Mafia elite in Montreal. They had to kick up to the Consenza boys like everybody else did, even though they had some privileges.
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Re: Salvatore Montagna
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08/26/12 11:35 PM
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Rumor is: mucci, di Maulo, vanelli, magi, gallo will be dealt with. any reprisals in Ontario?
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Re: Salvatore Montagna
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08/26/12 11:56 PM
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Apparently agostino knew for about a year that there was a contract on him. He had a very hard time living under protection. The guy never had a bodyguard with him since the 70's. He knew the end was near. The problem with the Rizzutos was that they had no muscle at the time of the killings. They were weak and surrounded by a spoiled rich younger generation. There street soldiers were in prison from the 2005 roundup. Whoever wanted st.leonard and more had to take him out. That was his town. It seems like we are getting somewhere, although I don't take things for granted easily. For me what you say are still theories, but they sound viable. I hope you don't mind me being skeptical, but what you say sounds believable and interesting. Who do you think is behind Lorenzo LoPresti's murder? It seems like he was one of Montagna's lieutenants, the other one being Pietrantonio. And I would guess Desjardins' crew was responsible for his murder as a reprisal for the attempt on Desjardins a month earlier. But what is confusing is that LoPresti's visitation took place at Loreto. Could it be that the Renda and Rizzuto families weren't aware of his collaboration with Montagna at the time? And were does Pietrantonio now stand?
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Re: Salvatore Montagna
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08/27/12 12:15 AM
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Apparently agostino knew for about a year that there was a contract on him. He had a very hard time living under protection. The guy never had a bodyguard with him since the 70's. He knew the end was near. The problem with the Rizzutos was that they had no muscle at the time of the killings. They were weak and surrounded by a spoiled rich younger generation. There street soldiers were in prison from the 2005 roundup. Whoever wanted st.leonard and more had to take him out. That was his town. Yes, but why was Giuseppe nowhere to be found? And even during the funeral, he wasn't present. Somebody close had to have sanctioned Agostino's hit, no? I also wonder the same. Cun-trera was related to the Cun-trera-Caruana clan back in Toronto so they must of known this was coming since Giacinto Arcuri was close to Ndrangheta members.
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