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Matranga Crime Family #660792
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One of the earliest crime families in America in New Orleans where the mafia started. Not sure if Carlo and Antonio Matranga were Arbreshe but they were born in Sicily and settled in New Orleans in the 1870s. There ancestors were originally from a region in Albania known as the Karavasta region and were a prominent family of the Matrenga clan.

So does this mean that the mafia was started by Albanians during this time, New Orleans has Alot of Italians that are Arbreshe.

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Originally Posted By: botz
So does this mean that the mafia was started by Albanians during this time, New Orleans has Alot of Italians that are Arbreshe.

Botz,

Your fascination with the Arbëreshë/Albanian people is getting a little weird tongue grin.


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Re: Matranga Crime Family [Re: pizzaboy] #660794
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Im just historical. tongue

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the only arberesh village in sicily is piana dei greci, later called piana degli albanesi, are matranga's from that village?
anyway their albanian acestors, if they have, settled in 1500, they are too italianized to be called albanians

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Originally Posted By: m2w
the only arberesh village in sicily is piana dei greci, later called piana degli albanesi, are matranga's from that village?
anyway their albanian acestors, if they have, settled in 1500, they are too italianized to be called albanians

Exactly.

We've talked about this ad nauseum. The Albanians in that part of Sicily have been there for 500 years. They're culturally Italian. End of story.


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arberesh anyway are more greeks than albanians they were arvanites in fact the village was called piana dei greci at one time

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What's the origin of the Matranga surname? Where in Sicily where the from? Does that place have a high Arbreshe populace? Gotta ask yourself that.

"There ancestors were originally from a region in Albania known as the Karavasta region and were a prominent family of the Matrenga clan."

That line is found on the NOLA crime family wiki. But is it sourced? Can it be backed up?

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They still speak albanian for 1. For 2 they called it Greci because there Byzantine church with mass was held in Greek language. Get your facts start about your own country

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Get your facts straight daygo. They still speak albanian and have their own traditions and culture. Look up illyria... Half of Italy is ancient illyrian people mixed with Latin = Italian

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Ivy, do you have any FBI indictments on these guys? How about a family chart?


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Originally Posted By: SHQIPTARI
Get your facts straight daygo. They still speak albanian and have their own traditions and culture. Look up illyria... Half of Italy is ancient illyrian people mixed with Latin = Italian


I think you meant "Dago". Not "Day-go". Boy these europeans are killin us! Nobody likes Albanians anyways

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Fucking blockheads,

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Originally Posted By: Skinny
Nobody likes Albanians anyways


I actually have quite some Albanian friends...

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I have a ton of serbian friends, which is probably why everyone i know hates albanians....

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It's incorrect to say that the only Arberesh village in Sicily is Piana degli Albanesi, lots of other Sicilian villages have a strong Arbareshe presence.

My grandparents are Arberesh born and bred in tiny Mezzojuso (PA).
When we go to see our relatives in NY, they go to check a Sicilian Byzantine Church in Little Italy (now run by Ukrainians).
It was funded by an Arberesh Pope who emigrated from Mezzojuso in the early 1900s.

The Italian Byzantine Rite Catholic Mission of Our Lady of Grace on Staten Island is quite active to this day.

I was told that Syracuse had (has?) some pretty big Arberesh population.

And yes, despite being very proud of their own remarkable history, they were/are/can be considered 100% Italians.

Re: Matranga Crime Family [Re: Skinny] #698624
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Originally Posted By: Skinny
I have a ton of serbian friends, which is probably why everyone i know hates albanians....


I personally have nothing against Serbs. I even know two Serbs that are cool with the Albanians that live over here.
I'm not Albanian by the way smile

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Its weird all the albanians that moved to the tristate area... They all move in to old white nhoods. Bhurst, belleville, HB, and they move out to the suburbs too... Staten Islands full of them, so is west essex co, bergen... In packs, theyre impossible to bear...individually theyre alright...

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Originally Posted By: Skinny
In packs, theyre impossible to bear...individually theyre alright...


Sounds a bit like the North Africans in Belgium. Greatest guys when you're alone with them and if you know them. Most irritating shits when you don't know them and when they outnumber you lol

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Where are the indictments! I want to see a family chart prior to recognizing this family! Ivy! Are you going to stand for this?


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Skinny I'm living in lower westchester right now, we're considering constructing a wall there flooding in so fast

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Originally Posted By: botz
Im just historical. tongue


I know a guy who bought a t-shirt that had the Albanian flag on the front.


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Originally Posted By: SilentPartnerz
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Im just historical. tongue


I know a guy who bought a t-shirt that had the Albanian flag on the front.


WOW! Good stuff! I bought a Polish Flag handkerchief one time!


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No I meant daygo. The name is from back in New York builders n construction bosses would hire them just a few days and pay them as the "day goes"

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Serbs are cannibals. Look it up

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Arbreshe have a saying gjaku ime shprisur. Which means my blood has become scattered. You guys know what up if u know any Albanians. The most loyal friends you can have. And they don't take shit from anyone. And by far the biggest mafia in Europe! Googles a motherfucker. Read up yourselves

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Originally Posted By: SHQIPTARI
Arbreshe have a saying gjaku ime shprisur. Which means my blood has become scattered. You guys know what up if u know any Albanians. The most loyal friends you can have. And they don't take shit from anyone. And by far the biggest mafia in Europe! Googles a motherfucker. Read up yourselves


Agree with the loyalty stuff. Also if you know an Albanian, the Albanians he knows will immediatly be friendly to you. The same goes for Turks, North Africans and Chechens over here. Italians and Greeks too to some extent.
Maybe it's culture, but Belgians themselves really don't seem to have the same kind of respect. When you talk to one, another Belgian he knows is more likely to behave like a prick to you than the immigrants do. I'm Belgian myself by the way.
I wouldn't call the Albanian mafia the most powerful mafia by the way, but in Europe definitely the most widespread nowadays.

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Originally Posted By: SHQIPTARI
No I meant daygo. The name is from back in New York builders n construction bosses would hire them just a few days and pay them as the "day goes"
The term Blockhead developed when a group of Italian-American youths noticed the new kid on the block in the Forza Italia sweat suit, they suspected he could be a zip until they realized his head was shaped like a box, realizing he was clearly albanian they coined the term and it stuck, true story


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