Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Originally Posted By: Jimmy_Two_Times
so when you say St. Louis has a crime presence, is it standing on its own or is it an offshoot of one of the New York Five?


I'm not sure what one means by "crime presence" but there isn't a formally structured, viable LCN family in St. Louis anymore. And there hasn't been for some time. Nothing left for New York to be connected to.


Historically, STL was closely connected to Kansas City and Detroit / Cleveland. The early leaders in STL came from KC. The Licavoli's were born in STL and moved to Detroit and Cleveland.

All midwest families answered to the Chicago Outfit. STL and Chicago had an uneasy and tenuous relationship, in large part because the Outfit had a crew in East StL Illinois. The STL family was marginalized by the East Side Gang, splitting up the rackets.

I am not aware of any connections between STL and the families in these other cities since Trupiano. I have heard rumors that Parrino has met with people from Chicago and Detroit, but it has not been reported in the press.


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