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Re: Kill The Irishman [Re: Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica] #601134
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what other ones are there? i really only know of the departed and that was a great movie imo. give me some suggestions!


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Re: Kill The Irishman [Re: Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica] #601139
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Umm let me see, Departed is one. Town, and the Boondock Saints series.Witness Protection is a nice one. One last Ride is a good movie. I have a couple more, but cant remember the names. I will search.

By the way, most of them arent as good as Departed. But hey, i like any mob movie, be it Italian or Irish.

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Re: Kill The Irishman [Re: Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica] #601171
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ok i enjoyed the town i didn't really classify it as mob movie although it did have mob elements with the guy in the flower shop and i do believe that the back drop of the story was based on true events. not to that degree though. for some reason im not on the whole boondock saints trip as everyone else. thought they were so unbelievable. i will check out the others. i think its hard to compare a movie to the departed. thats another one i can watch over and over.


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Re: Kill The Irishman [Re: Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica] #601204
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Problem with The Departed is it went way too far with the plot. It really took out the reality factor for me. And I was especially annoyed with DiCaprio's character having an affair with Damon's girlfriend. What are the odds of that? What I did like was Nicholson. His fucking performance is the movie.


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Re: Kill The Irishman [Re: Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica] #601456
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I've seen the film last night and I'm slightly dissappointed. I was never expecting a film as good as those of Scorsese or Donnie Brasco, which is one of my favorites. But I did expect it to be less flashy and to have more depth in the plot and more character development.

What's bad about this film is that it's way too fast and it felt more like a big trailer than a movie. It's also too romanticized and glorifying. For instance, they way he got those chicks looked pretty ridiculous.

But what's really good about the movie is the casting, which is excellent.

Just see this to know what I mean:

http://www.cleveland.com/movies/index.ssf/2011/03/kill_the_irishman_cast_real_li.html

The acting is overall good. But considering the casting of the film they could have done so much more with this. And that's too bad, although it's likely due to a limited budget.

It's an enjoyable film, but don't expect too much of it or otherwise it will be a let-down. However, I would still recommend it to those who like the genre.


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Re: Kill The Irishman [Re: Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica] #602820
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This was a surprisingly good and engaging film, and I can't imagine any other movie that quite captures the decadent grittiness of the 70's, as well as this one. Remember all those depressing "earth" colors, the bleak rust-belt urban landscapes, and all those huge American "land yachts" that became such dinosaurs after the first gas crisis.... like the Ford LTD, Gran Torino, Lincoln, and Coupe Deville? Ray Stevenson in the lead is very convincing and sympathetic, and even the well-known actors all have a certain seedy, over-the-hill quality about them... from a self-parodying Cristopher Walken, to an obviously "older" and overweight Val Kilmer.

Re: Kill The Irishman [Re: ChristianBay] #602888
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I also found it to be a great flick. Ray Stevenson does an amazing job as Danny Greene, the under-dog taking La Cosa Nostra along with Nardi, played by D'Onofrio. Christopher Walken as Shondor Birns, he has a style and flair he brings to any character, it's Walken's thing. Great storyline and alot of explosions, you'll be suprised by how many stars are actually in this movie.

Re: Kill The Irishman [Re: Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica] #603500
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i enjoyed it


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Re: Kill The Irishman [Re: Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica] #604173
05/25/11 11:26 PM
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So get this. Me & the missus get into a huge fight over bills & money (the usual shit eh?) A bit later she realizes her Student Allowance has indeed been cut off, likea I was sayin'. She feels sheepish, so she goes on to BTJunky, & downloads I good copy for me...! Then she rubs my back & gives me a massage with happy ending (wink wink) while Im watchin it! How awesome!!1!

Seriously, I LOVE that woman. Anyhoo, I really dug the movie. Sure, it aint no Goodfellas, but it tried & came pretty close. Ray Stevenson had a stellar turn. & i loved seeing Fat Tony & Blackie Licavoli finally brought to screen. There's a scene before he dies where Danny Greene passes on a Celtic medallion to a small kid, given to him by Fionula Flannagan in a as-per-usual great performance, that goes a way into humanising Greene. It's a great movie if you follow LCN & have an active interest in the history, & a decent enough movie for the average, as my girlfriend will attest. She liked it too, & doesnt know Carlo Gambino from a vibrator!!


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Re: Kill The Irishman [Re: MadSam] #604262
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you'll be suprised by how many stars are actually in this movie


absolutely agree with you...so many great stars were played in this movie...I was really surprised =)

Re: Kill The Irishman [Re: Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica] #604263
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what I really liked in Danny Greene is that despite the fact that he was in the gang, killed people, he still remained fair, evidenced by the many scenes, such as when he chastised his friend for that he still continued to gamble; scene with bikers and his act when he helped a neighbor with money for rent...

Re: Kill The Irishman [Re: Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica] #604363
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well thats typical for italian gangsters to, they help people in the neighbourhood. No crime whatsoever in the streets. Its a common thing with gangsters, that way they feel that they do some good after all. A way to wash their sins


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Re: Kill The Irishman [Re: Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica] #604392
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its also a way for their own people to back them. joey merlino, and gotti did most publically but it dates all the way back to capone


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Re: Kill The Irishman [Re: Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica] #605600
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It just came on DVD here in the U.S.

Re: Kill The Irishman [Re: Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica] #605912
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This is ON-Demand here on Comcast in philly. I am sure you can see anywhere on Comcast. I saw it this weekend. I did like it...but to compare it to Goodfellas...I just don't see it. Goodfellas is my favorite movie ever though! I think it gives you the most realistic look. I also watched goodfellas this weekend so maybe thats not fair. Also, I thought they took to many liberties in certain scenes. But I did really enjoy it..one of the better mob films in recent years. Its under Indie on Demand so Im thinking that its going to be like that 10th and wolf movie but it was so much better then that. AT times it did move fast but all and all it was good. I didn't like a couple of the Italian characters but I would watch it again.

Re: Kill The Irishman [Re: Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica] #616651
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I have to say that I was surprised at how much I liked this movie. If half the stuff in that movie is true, and from what the board is saying, it sounds like it (even the death scene seemed pretty on spot), this Irishman was one tough S.O.B.

Re: Kill The Irishman [Re: Jimmy_Two_Times] #617184
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This movie would be good if it wasnt for the romantic way in which they portrayed him and also the bag pipes were annoying after a bit theyd play it every time this guy had some sort of ethnic pride moment which there was no need for. They killed christopher walkens character off to quickly. Private Pyles character was good though. When he was stabbing the geeza in the trunk whilst talking .That shit was classic. Up there with my favourite f***king someone up scenes ever.

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Re: Kill The Irishman [Re: Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica] #617237
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I saw this movie back when I had Netflix and it was a whole lot better than I expected. It has some weak points but overall it was pretty good.




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Re: Kill The Irishman [Re: phatmatress] #617278
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Originally Posted By: phatmatress
what other ones are there? i really only know of the departed and that was a great movie imo. give me some suggestions!


State of Grace (1991). Very loosely based on the Westies.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrIEKS1PdfI


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Re: Kill The Irishman [Re: IvyLeague] #617441
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"State of Grace" was one of the last films to be shot on the west side prior to the gentrification of the '90s. For that alone, it's worth watching. Especially for you non New Yorkers out there who want to see what Manhattan looked like prior to the total yuppification of the borough. Just about all of the old Irish gin mills are either Starbucks or condos today. No offense, but people in middle America watch crap like "Sex and the City" and think Manhattan's always been like that. Less than a generation ago the borough had quite a few blue collar people living there. They're pretty much gone for good now rolleyes.


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Re: Kill The Irishman [Re: Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica] #617452
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Seems cool, might give it a try. Thanks for sharing, post more if you got 'em.


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Re: Kill The Irishman [Re: pizzaboy] #617467
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
"State of Grace" was one of the last films to be shot on the west side prior to the gentrification of the '90s. For that alone, it's worth watching. Especially for you non New Yorkers out there who want to see what Manhattan looked like prior to the total yuppification of the borough. Just about all of the old Irish gin mills are either Starbucks or condos today. No offense, but people in middle America watch crap like "Sex and the City" and think Manhattan's always been like that. Less than a generation ago the borough had quite a few blue collar people living there. They're pretty much gone for good now rolleyes.


Not for good, one day the yuppies will be gone too. wink


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Not for good, one day the yuppies will be gone too. wink

Maybe some day, Sonny. But for now, a studio apartment in that area is going for almost $2000 a month rolleyes. So many people who grew up in that area have been completely displaced, and the same thing is going on in Harlem now. It's a shame.


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Not for good, one day the yuppies will be gone too. wink

Maybe some day, Sonny. But for now, a studio apartment in that area is going for almost $2000 a month rolleyes. So many people who grew up in that area have been completely displaced, and the same thing is going on in Harlem now. It's a shame.


I understand what you're saying PB. It's a sad thing to see something like this happen if you lived in the area for most of you're life.


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Re: Kill The Irishman [Re: Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica] #627771
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just saw that netflix just added this to their instant streaming, its worth a look it was alright


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Just saw the movie. It was interesting, but Licavoli seems to be portrayed very differently from the book the movie was based on. If I remember correctly, in the book it is said he wasn't particularly ambitious to become the boss and sometimes behaved like a complete idiot (switched price tags on pants in a shop, used stolen credit cards etc).


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Re: Kill The Irishman [Re: Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica] #667094
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Kill the Irishman was good. Not near the same level as Goodfellas or Donnie Brasco. But it was still entertaining. It really made all the gangsters look like idiots, especially the Italians, in my opinion. I didn't appreciate that part, it seemed pretty one-sided. But I realize it wasn't a biography or documentary.

If you like more Irish Mob movies, you can also check out one called Madso's War. It's alright.

It was cool to see some other Mafia families have a bit of a story told about them too, and their connections with the Genovese Family in NY under Salerno. As a side point, the Cleveland family under Scalish was the same crew referred to in the Godfather 2 by Hymen Roth as the Lakeview Road Boys (really the Mayfield Road Mob). This Cleveland family, with the help of their Teamsters connections, was the one the controlled the Stardust Casino, and these guys, along with a few other families (Detroit, Milwaukie, St. Louis, Chicago Outfit) are portrayed in Scorsese's Casino. Interesting connections, I thought.


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I got this as soon as it came out my gf got it for me and I love this movie.its a great movie jus wish it would have followed the book more.and I mean the original book by porrello


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Re: Kill The Irishman [Re: Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica] #676158
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Love this movie, have yet to read the book but this happened about 40 minutes away from me near Cleveland. My uncles wifes dad was good friends with John Nardi as well..I thought that was pretty awesome

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was a great story but wasted like donnie brasco,because of a low budget and terrible camera work,everything looked rushed

they should have filmed it with cameras from serpico or the french connection gave it that grainy grimey look

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